[ SECRET POST #2185 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think what they meant was that Eleven wasn't controlling about the little things. When humanity was kinda being enslaved by aliens they couldn't remember seeing, yeah, sure, he was controlling. But he didn't butt into everything and tell everyone how to live their lives as often as Ten did. Of course he did do that sometimes -- I mean, he IS the Doctor, and a Doctor who isn't kind of an condescending arrogant jerk is a Doctor who's just plain doing it wrong or fooling himself, but Eleven -- and Nine -- didn't jabber on about how good and wonderful and morally righteous the scary shit they did was. They were pretty much open about how "yeah, sorry, it was either this shitty scenario or a more shitty scenario. *shrugs*"

I don't think that made Eleven or Nine necessarily better than Ten though. Less irritating maybe, but I think Ten was acutely aware of, and bothered by, the fact that he had to do so much scary shit to achieve good outcomes like keeping innocent people safe and defeating evil villains, and tried to justify it by trying to talk a big game about how what he was doing was awesome, really, to convince himself he was a good person who was doing good things, not a monster.

Which is a problematic way of doing things (see: Waters of Mars) but at the same time I understand and sympathize with how he saw it. I think Eleven's bluntness about how making the "best" choice can still be pretty damn shitty (see: The Beast Below) was kind of a backlash against Ten's excesses of self-justification, similar the way Ten's idealism and zealousness about acting like a "good" guy and being justified in his actions grew out of a lot of Nine's jadedness and cynicism and self-hatred over the Time War.

And anyway, even Ten wasn't as controlling about the little things as Seven. Or Eight, who was the one who kinda killed all the Daleks and Time Lords. Methinks the people who bash Ten for being sooooooo controlling are missing a bit of perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

"yeah, sorry, it was either this shitty scenario or a more shitty scenario."

hit the nail on the head why I hate NuWho with a passion tbqh

[(Anonymous)]

Even as a fan of the new series....yeah, the depressingness and "lol it's all crap do you want this crap or that crap? Either way, you'll still be miserable and guilty and all your nice things will be taken away" really goes too far sometimes to the point of desensitizing viewers to the pain of hard choices.

I was so sure it was just a nice explorative period that we were going to leave that behind when season 5 ended on such a deliriously happy and joy-filled and positive note (the death toll was in the negative numbers!) ...and then we got season 6. *facepalm*

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, if I want a Crapsack World done right, I'll go reread the Sprawl trilogy for the ten thousandth time.

[(Anonymous)]

In all fairness, when it comes to how the series ends, Series 1, 4, and 7 end with the Doctor "dying", so they naturally are going to be a bit dramatic and sad. And then 2 ends with Rose leaving, which is a natural part of her being written out and is also bound to be depressing. So I think it's more or less the nature of the fact the show HAS to go through so many actors.

So there's 3 and 5 that didn't end sadly. I guess season 6 ends on a fairly "happy" note, if you forgive the bloody massacre of River's character lying off to the side.