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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-26 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2185 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor himself committed genocide (or at least attempted to with about as much success as the Master's attempted genocide against humans) against both Galifrey and the Daleks, so it's not like his moral high ground is all that firm.

It's totally firm, and I'm boggled when people use this excuse. He commits genocide on species who are trying to commit genocide on other species. Species who are trying to kill others to keep themselves alive. No matter what, you can argue that the Doctor always did it for the greater good in an objective sense.

The Master was just murdering the shit out of people for fun. The Doctor also saved the universe, galaxy, solar system, planet, etc so many times he's better off alive to the whole universe. The Master just destroyed.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-12-27 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
you can argue that the Doctor always did it for the greater good in an objective sense.

An argument that the Doctor himself was wise enough to reject. He knew he had committed a cosmic scale atrocity, and has spent his last 3 regenerations atoning. 'Everybody lives, Rose. Just this once, everybody lives.' 'I am not a good man.'

Is the Doctor a better man than the Master? Most certainly.

But a significant part of what makes him better is recognizing that his hands aren't clean, and never, ever attempting to justify evil acts.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, I think an entire species being murderous and hostile and bent on total destruction is good enough.

And I think it's the laughable conceit of some of the fans that they think 'oh, well, he's so immortal and knowledgeable and we totally can't look at his actions like that you just don't know you're human" blah blah blah.

A fucking human being wrote him. There's no godly POV in Ten. There's only a human one. And, yes, while his hands might not be clean, he would be PERFECTLY excused for justifying his actions. Anyone who thinks otherwise should grow up--honestly, the Doctor's childish views on morality are one of my issues with the show.