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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-26 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2185 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Well, this is annoying. I know I replied to you, but the reply doesn't appear to be here. Damn it. :(

Anyway, I basically said that the Time Lords are really lucky, and the Doctor doesn't seem to realize it. I understand feeling upset and scared and being angry. I know he wasn't really angry with Wilf or really talking directly to him. But I still think it was unnecessary and kinda childish.

And the things like having his life endangered, having to regenerate a lot, etc, are his choice. So while I understand being angry sometimes, it's still not very fair. He doesn't want to settle down, but he could.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-12-27 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
And the things like having his life endangered, having to regenerate a lot, etc, are his choice. So while I understand being angry sometimes, it's still not very fair. He doesn't want to settle down, but he could.

See, I honestly don't think he good. For all we fault the Doctor for his god complex, if he just up and said 'fuck it, I'm settling down and I'm not putting myself on the line to help any more people,' we'd all hate him and be pissed that he did. He essentially is a lonely god of sorts. He has that responsibility whether he wants it or not. So I don't think he can just settle. Being the last 'good guy' Timelord left means he doesn't have a choice to be 'neutral/ disinterested guy' Timelord. He's gotta be there because he's always been there. After 900 years, he couldn't just stop. The universe and all the people who know him wouldn't let him, including himself.

Saying 'Timelords are lucky' is a slippery slope. They're in a class all their own, completely different from any other species on the planet. Different rules, different problems, different baggage. To humans, who seem to want to prolong life as much as we can and have as much excitement in our lives as we can take, a TARDIS and the ability to regenerate instead of just dying would seem like the jackpot. But to someone for whom that's part and parcel, it seems to me that yearning for that normality and consistency and simplicity that comes with never changing and settling down is something that a person like the Doctor would eventually develop. The fact that he could never really have that...I think I'd go a little crazy too honestly if I had to deal with and see half the things he has.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I understand he has compelling reasons not to, but I think it is pretty simply true he COULD settle down. The option exists. The power exists to kill himself. The power exists to do this or do that if he ever felt it was too much of a burden. He's not forced to, he just feels personally responsible...which, again, is all him. Obviously wouldn't make for much of an interesting show...

But this is all in relation to him being angry towards Wilf unfairly. I'm not saying I don't understand and mostly agree. I'm saying his actions were uncalled for and ended Ten's arc on a poor note.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-12-27 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Eh I'm gonna have to continue to disagree. Having the capability isn't the same as having the option. Sure, he was absolutely physically capable of stopping and settling down, just as I am physically capable of quitting my job and turning my back on anyone who depends on me. But because people depend on me to do what I do, I don't really have that option.

I agree with you that what he said was out of line and shouldn't have been said to someone. But I never really considered it as him really saying it to Wilf and I think the point was that Wilf understood that. The Doctor was literally raging against the dying light and he couldn't be taken in earnest at that time. Wilf knew that and I think we were supposed to see that too, as much as it upset us to hear those words seemingly directed at Wilf. Wilf was merely the vehicle of the Ten's destruction. I belief Ten would have raged at anyone who wasn't what he expected (i.e the Master).