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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-26 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2185 ]


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katherine_b: (DW - Doctor ten doctors)

Re: ayrt

[personal profile] katherine_b 2012-12-27 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Romantic r'ship? Urgh, no, definitely not! Particularly not with Rory for the most part right there, which is my pet hate and probably set me against Rose early on.

Yes, you make a very good point about the differences in their regenerative surroundings, and one which I should have considered before posting. While I find the idea fascinating, I'm not sure I necessarily agree about Rose's influence on Ten, but only because I can't see any evidence of that in previous regenerations that might lead to him having done it for his ninth regeneration. I prefer the theory that he had his attitudes fixed by Rose's reactions to him, stuck with them with Martha until he realised (too late) that they were inappropriate, and changed his manner with Astrid and then with Donna.

I am more inclined to agree with your views on equality. It's interesting that this is an idea that belongs purely to the new series as there was always a gap between Doctor and companion(s) in the old, and I think is something that began to evolve during the second half of Nine's era and has now blossomed in Ten and Eleven's. I think 11 would have viewed Amy as his equal had River not been around to fill that place. It will be interesting to see where the relationship goes with the new companion.
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Re: ayrt

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-12-27 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's possible to view some of his previous regenerations' character development and life experiences in general as having an influence on his next regeneration.

For example: One started out very distant and grumpy and patronizing towards humans, and eventually warmed up to them due to first Ian and Barbara's influence, then his later companions' influence and became much nicer, and then when he regenerated into Two, he was very close to his companions and emotionally open and vulnerable with them. And it's possible to view Five's regeneration into Six as a result of just having a really awful life in general with shittons of people dying in most of his serials and companions running away and dying on him and making him worry and get sad all the time, so his next regeneration was a far more abrasive and insensitive person in reaction to all that.

So I don't think it's a leap to say his companions also have some influence on his characterization is unsupported by previous regenerations. And Nine would be a special case -- Rose was his first companion after the Time War, which was a pretty cataclysmic event, and she kinda did a lot to help him start getting over it (re: Dalek). So I can she her having more of an influence on him than usual. I don't think it was conscious or anything, or that his companions were the only influence on his characterization, but I think they did shape him a bit.

I'm a little confused as to what you mean about Ten's attitudes though, because he seemed to always treat Martha rather differently than Rose?