[ SECRET POST #2187 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2187 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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09. [WARNING for rape, sexual assault, gore]

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The rape in the very first episode nearly made me stop watching. Because in the books? That scene is consensual, or at least seems to be so. He doesn't bend her over and pull her hands away and growl "no" and stip her, she unbraids his hair and he strokes her and asks "No ...?" and she doesn't tell him to stop.

But yeah, all the rape puts me right off. Thankfully the sex scenes in S2 are primarily for character development rather than Rape As Drama or Woooo We Are HBO Look At All The TITS.

I actually kinda prefer The Borgias to Game of Thrones. I mean, I enjoy Game of Thrones, but I prefer The Borgias. And at least on The Borgias the marital rape is treated as an absolutely horrifying torturous thing there is no coming back from, and the only other instance of rape I can think of is to demonstrate how unhinged and obsessive a character has become (he's basically on a self-destructive kick at that point, the attempted rape is followed by threatening-to-kill-his-infant-nephew and a drug addiction.)

[(Anonymous)]

If you're talking about the Dany/Drogo wedding, it was not consensual in the books. Dany didn't really have the option of saying 'no'.

[gethenian]

True, but it was a hell of a lot more consensual in the books than in the show. He never penetrates her until she says "yes." All he does before that is touch her. It ultimately IS her choice to guide him to do anything more than just lay his hands on her skin.

Of course, she is 14 friggin years old which makes it massively creepy and kind of wrong-feeling just reading that scene regardless. But it's not really rape.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, there is no such thing as "more consensual". Consent is given or not. The scene in the book might be less brutal, but it was still rape since she could not say no.

[gethenian]

I am fairly certain that saying "yes" while guiding a man's fingers into your vag as the narrative describes your increasing arousal and interest since the beginning of the scene constitutes consent. Even if you are 14 and badly-written.

[(Anonymous)]

That was my main problem with that scene. She was all 'I don't want it. I don't want it. Oh, I'm getting all hot and bothered - okay, I want it.'

And then there is still the consent issue since Dany just didn't have the option of saying 'No'.

[fuchsiascreams]

I don't think the fact that she physically enjoyed it means that it WASN'T rape. She was forced into a marriage and sexual relationship that she didn't want because she didn't feel like she had any other choice. The fact that she started to like it halfway through and liked it after a sexual encounter that she didn't consent to had already begun does not constitute consent. \

Also, she is fourteen. Even if she got naked, rolled in hot oil, sat on his lap and begged him to do her, it would still be rape.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, there was no way they could have shown that as consensual on TV, we wouldn't have been able to see into Dany's thoughts and see her struggling with it the way we did in the books, and it would have come off EVEN WORSE.