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fandomsecrets2012-12-29 02:53 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2188 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2188 ⌋
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First, and I've said this before but it bears repeating: People are dicks. Now, if you want to change that to a more gender appropriate role for the community you are thinking of, go ahead. It's the meaning, not the word itself. Intent does matter. :P
But getting back on track, people are dicks. There is a huge population of dicks out there, and no community is immune to their presence. And sadly, somebody being a dick to you doesn't magically give you the empathy to not be a dick yourself if dickishness is part of your nature. If anything, it festers what's bad inside those people.
So, you have a group of angry folks. Angry folks who've had some bullshit in their lives. Legitimately bad bullshit in some cases. And they are angry about the right things! But sadly, a righetous cause doesn't avail you of dickishness either.
So, you have a group of angry folks who've felt ostracized, that didn't belong, and now, thanks to the internet, they find a place with people like them or close enough to it that they have a community!
But that anger is still there. And being what they are, they don't really want justice. Oh, that'd be nice, they aren't opposed to the idea, but that's not what they want more then anything. More then anything, they want REVENGE. To get even. To give some of that hurt back. And it's easy to get caught up in that anger when you have it in you yourself. Suddenly a whole community feels empowered by having it's own club and being exclusionary and coming down on those they feel that deserve their wrath. Often in the same sort of petty "they are different, fuck them" way that the world has treated them. Because having bullshit happen to you doesn't provide perspective either.
The rest get sucked up in the anger, or feel white guilt, or just don't know how to go about these things and think this is the way, or are weak and don't want to be the person who doesn't belong yet again so they become one of the bullies. But that's how it starts.
The fact it's counterproductive is irrelevant. Because it's not really about progress. The good news is most of these SJW are the same beta wussies they've been all their lives, and like most internet tough guys, they will never back up what they are saying in real life. Or, sadly, get involved in any real activism (those people are "too soft") unless it's some extreme group nobody was taking seriously.
Edit: SJW aren't the first time this has happened at all, mind. Most extremist groups on social issues have this kind of mentality to some extent, people who say they are getting together for change but are really there to be angry and rant. You see this both with conservative and liberal groups. And you see it in plenty of other places on the internet on different issues. Hell, you even can find "no girls allowed" angry nerds doing the same kinda butthurt bullshit! They just use different terminology and are more immediately idiotic is all.
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
So, you have a group of angry folks who've felt ostracized, that didn't belong, and now, thanks to the internet, they find a place with people like them or close enough to it that they have a community!
But that anger is still there. And being what they are, they don't really want justice. Oh, that'd be nice, they aren't opposed to the idea, but that's not what they want more then anything. More then anything, they want REVENGE. To get even. To give some of that hurt back. And it's easy to get caught up in that anger when you have it in you yourself. Suddenly a whole community feels empowered by having it's own club and being exclusionary and coming down on those they feel that deserve their wrath. Often in the same sort of petty "they are different, fuck them" way that the world has treated them. Because having bullshit happen to you doesn't provide perspective either.
Thank you for this.
I was bullied from first grade until I graduated from high school. And it was merciless; the only thing that kept me from killing myself was the fear that I'd go to Hell. Seriously!
And so many SWJs claim that they were bullied. And I just never got that, because they seem like the biggest bullies around.
I sort of feel sorry for them now. They're still trying their damndest to be part of the Cool Kids Club.
But then again, I don't feel sorry for them at all, because I know how much being bullied hurt. And I have no desire to inflict that hurt on others, and I can't imagine how hurting others would make me or anyone else feel better.
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