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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-30 06:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2189 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2189 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
haven't seen this, but here's an observations:

evil, ass-ignorant motherfuckers don't go around being evil, ass-ignorant motherfuckers every second of the day. they take breaks to dote on their wifes, drink with friends, take care of their kids. They may even donate to charity or save a puppy once in a while when the mood strikes.

doesn't make them less of the ass-ignorant evil motherfuckers they are. just means the world isn't quite as black/white as all that and sometimes even an ass-ignorant evil motherfucker is an okay person for an hour or so.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
goodness, this

being baffled that terrible people have not so terrible, human moments is... well, it is sort of a fairly inexperienced outlook in life, i guess

(dunno how to word it better)
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[personal profile] hoggle2807 2012-12-31 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was going to say something here, but then you two went and summed it up so nicely.
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[personal profile] al28894 2012-12-31 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
*Claps to above two comments*
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-30 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed. Humanizing is good, it makes for good characters. But humans can be evil.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2012-12-31 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
You mean that real people and well-written fictional characters have multi-faceted personalities? Good points? Bad points? Inconsistencies?

Wowzers.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
With today's media, especially w/ Hollywood and other Western entertainment morality is presented as very dichotomous. There are bad guys, there are good guys and sometimes, when they want to be really complex, "gritty" and edgy there'll be a smidge of moral relativity.


I'm not surprised that people get confused. Bad guys aren't only the ones to shoot people, sell drugs and hold weirdly intense grudges on their superhero literally-a-norse-god bros.

Evil, ass-ignornant motherfuckers work with you, they're you're mother, sister, girlfriend/boyfriend. They might even be your friend, someone you chose when you were too young to know any better and they weren't who there are now. They are your teachers, your police and your court. Being a evil ass-ignorant motherfucker isn't just commiting crime and making yourself a social outcast. It can creep up on you quietly, as you "do what you have to do".

A lot of people have a surprisingly hard time grasping this. I guess it's easier when the bad guys are living far away in that one neighbourhood where people get shot/high.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I like how you say "they might even be your friend," as if "mother/sister/girlfriend/boyfriend" isn't close enough to have any sort of impact.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
DA

put the teeth away, anon. :S
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[personal profile] aquila_black 2012-12-31 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
The way I interpreted this, it's not that blood relatives aren't close. It's just that you don't get to choose them. So the "you might even be friends with a bad person" was emphasizing that their shortcomings as a person might not be lifelong traits, or things that drove all reasonable people away from them.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-01 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Calm down.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why people say this stupid line when something evil is done by someone

"But but but he didn't LOOK like a bad guy!!!! How could he do such a thing???"
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-12-31 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
A+ summarization!

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I love how everyone's acting like I was shocked the villains had some humanity, I was just saying I sympathized with them even though they were supposed to be heinous people

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
sounds about the same vOv

i don't get what your point is
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Re: OP

[personal profile] creambun 2012-12-31 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose because some other people DON'T understand that everything isn't one or the other and OP would get backlash where they hang about?
Edited 2012-12-31 01:39 (UTC)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Where's the backlash? I see people saying, "yup."

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-01 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Uh, actually I see a lot of backlash from snarky assholes, so...