[ SECRET POST #2189 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2189 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If baseball is America's pastime, why are most of the players foreign?

[ariakas]

Because the baseball-playing population of the world is much larger than the baseball-playing population of the US, and the MLB is where baseball players make the most money.

Same reason most of the NHL isn't Canadian.

[(Anonymous)]

Because that's a lie, baseball is actually based on a British sport, the real American past time is Basketball, it was invented in Massachusetts for Naismith's sake!

[(Anonymous)]

I knew I hated basketball for a reason. Nothing good comes out of Massachusetts.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL. Come now, we also created Dunkin Donuts and Fluffernutter.

[(Anonymous)]

You say that like it's something to be proud of...

[(Anonymous)]

I am a proud Masshole, thank you for noticing!

[childings.livejournal.com]

What are you talking about Dunkin is the best commercially available coffee there is

[insanenoodlyguy]

I can understand if not agree with basket ball but Dunkin Doughnuts? You go choke on a fluffernutter.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't say that within ten miles of Fenway Park. You'll get pummeled.

[(Anonymous)]

How would Naismith being Canadian factor into this equation?

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, the fact that America and Canada are total broseph's (longest undefended border baby!), and he had actually moved to the US, and was teaching in American when he made up basketball makes me sure it's an American sport. If he had brought it from Canada, that would be different.

[mekkio]

Basketball is just as international with their line-ups too. During the Olympics, all but one team playing, had a current NBA player in their line-up. Sometimes with teammates playing against each other such as The Lakers' Pau Gasol and Kobe Bryant playing against each other when Spain went up against the US.

[childings.livejournal.com]

I thought basketball was invented in Canada, or at least by a Canadian

[insanenoodlyguy]

Canadian who was in America and staying there. He was one of ours by then.

[(Anonymous)]

Does the same rule apply to singers? I have a few names in mind...

[insanenoodlyguy]

Sure! Lets appropriate them all! :D

[(Anonymous)]

Not if you're Canadian, man. Someone could have moved away when they were still a baby and we will still claim them. It's what we do.

[mekkio]

I wouldn't say less than a third of all players makes up the majority. (Or 28% as of this year's line-up.)

Also, why not?

We don't care who plays. We just want a good game.

Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't matter where you come from, you can still get along and we'll welcome you. We're not one race, we're not Americans, we're all from one place or other and we've all agreed to come together for this thing, and that's more true in baseball than anywhere else. The fact that there's ton of foreign players doesn't make baseball less American; it makes it more American. Poor kid from Puerto Rico? You can play in the big leagues, you can have the greatest arm anyone's ever seen, you can be a hero. Young Italian, your father came to this country to see if he could earn a better living fishing in San Francisco Bay? You can play center field for the Yankees, hit in 56 games in a row, be an American legend. Son of an Okie lead miner? You can play center field for the Yankees, end up in the Hall of Fame. Look at Jackie Robinson, look at Buck O'Neil, look at Willie Mays. Look at Juan Marichal, Orlando Cepeda. It's not perfect, of course - a lot of times, it's a sad, dark story. Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston never got a chance to play in the majors; Satchel Paige didn't get his shot till he was 42. Baseball failed them, America failed them. But it's still the purest god-damned form there is of the American dream - as flawed and imperfect an idea as that is. And the fact that people from all over come and play it, why, that's the guarantee of the American character of the game. It doesn't stop it being American, that's what makes it American.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[dimestoresaint]

Goddamn, I wish I lived in your America instead of the one where I have to listen to all my relatives and co-workers ranting about alllllllll them faahhhhhreigners.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

You know I have been in a lot of places and some of them very rural, and I've never actually encountered this attitude myself. I have encountered a fair amount of complaining about ILLEGAL immigration, but that's another story.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

same anon
Not to say that your experiences aren't legit obvs. But your (evidently fairly narrow) neighborhood isn't the entire country. Try a big city or an area where there's been a lot of immigration historically. There'll likely be a better attitude there.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

Wellllll, like I say, it's an ideal that we don't always live up to. That we don't always live up to even in baseball, like I mentioned - there's a whole lot of great ballplayers who never got a shot because of the color of their skin. And it's certainly an ideal that is only ever imperfectly realized in this waking world as regards the broader American sphere - we're still a flawed country, with deep, deep problems. But the ideal, the vision is still there, as shitty as the reality can be.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Because what's more American than poaching the best talent from other nations if possible?