[ SECRET POST #2189 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2189 ⌋

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Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't matter where you come from, you can still get along and we'll welcome you. We're not one race, we're not Americans, we're all from one place or other and we've all agreed to come together for this thing, and that's more true in baseball than anywhere else. The fact that there's ton of foreign players doesn't make baseball less American; it makes it more American. Poor kid from Puerto Rico? You can play in the big leagues, you can have the greatest arm anyone's ever seen, you can be a hero. Young Italian, your father came to this country to see if he could earn a better living fishing in San Francisco Bay? You can play center field for the Yankees, hit in 56 games in a row, be an American legend. Son of an Okie lead miner? You can play center field for the Yankees, end up in the Hall of Fame. Look at Jackie Robinson, look at Buck O'Neil, look at Willie Mays. Look at Juan Marichal, Orlando Cepeda. It's not perfect, of course - a lot of times, it's a sad, dark story. Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston never got a chance to play in the majors; Satchel Paige didn't get his shot till he was 42. Baseball failed them, America failed them. But it's still the purest god-damned form there is of the American dream - as flawed and imperfect an idea as that is. And the fact that people from all over come and play it, why, that's the guarantee of the American character of the game. It doesn't stop it being American, that's what makes it American.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[dimestoresaint]

Goddamn, I wish I lived in your America instead of the one where I have to listen to all my relatives and co-workers ranting about alllllllll them faahhhhhreigners.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

You know I have been in a lot of places and some of them very rural, and I've never actually encountered this attitude myself. I have encountered a fair amount of complaining about ILLEGAL immigration, but that's another story.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

same anon
Not to say that your experiences aren't legit obvs. But your (evidently fairly narrow) neighborhood isn't the entire country. Try a big city or an area where there's been a lot of immigration historically. There'll likely be a better attitude there.

Re: Because that's what America's about.

[(Anonymous)]

Wellllll, like I say, it's an ideal that we don't always live up to. That we don't always live up to even in baseball, like I mentioned - there's a whole lot of great ballplayers who never got a shot because of the color of their skin. And it's certainly an ideal that is only ever imperfectly realized in this waking world as regards the broader American sphere - we're still a flawed country, with deep, deep problems. But the ideal, the vision is still there, as shitty as the reality can be.