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⌈ Secret Post #2191 ⌋

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fail!troll secret is fail

This. 2/10. Entirely too obvious. JUST LIKE A DUMB WOMAN TO FUCK IT UP

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I wouldn't say that. I mean, even if the books there's more prominent male Hufflepuff characters than female. Besides, the #1 provider of 2-dimensional female characters is the love interest, and "hardworking sensible person" isn't the most popular stereotype there.

Hahahaha.

No. You're thinking of Slytherin. (Conniving, manipulative, vain...)

Yeah, am I supposed to believe that the house with Draco Malfoy and Blaise Zabini is LESS effeminate than the house with Zacharias Smith and Cedric Diggory? (Shhh about Justin Finch-Fletchley...)

So you're saying women can't be brave or ambitious or smart?

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What sort of fuckery is this???

The dumb kind.

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that's why their common room is near a kitchen

(& thinking about this, earth IS the most feminine of the elements)

Huh. I always felt that air and water were more feminine. I get the whole "mother earth" thing and whatnot, but in and of the elements themselves...

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Oh my god that's beautiful.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

If you're saying that Hufflepuff gets a bad rap because it is associated with femininity, then no, I think you're wrong.

If you're saying that Hufflepuff's strengths overlap considerably with traits which are traditionally considered feminine, and that these strengths are devalued in many circles, then you have a point, but I'm not sure it's a very relevant one. Hufflepuff is not generally seen as "badass". We knew this already.

Hufflepuff is not generally seen as "badass". We knew this already.

Yeah, but it not being generally seen as badass because its strengths overlap with what is traditionally considered feminine is interesting. I think OP has a point.

(Anonymous) - 2013-01-02 02:26 (UTC) - Expand

I'd also consider the possibility that the relationship is more correlative than causative. Bravery and ambition in particular are associated with individualism (and people with high intelligence stand out as well), while Hufflepuff traits are more useful in a collective setting. I would argue that in modern Western society, individualism is much more highly valued than collectivism, although that itself might be because those two things are also gendered (but is that gendering as old as sexism itself? They both go back to time immemorial, so maybe we can't be sure). What I'm saying is, maybe it's less that the traits are gendered and more that both the traits and the genders are associated with different philosophies, one of which is more valued than the other.

Either way, I think you may have a point.

This after the secret/discussion about Japan's collectivist culture makes me wonder how different cultures value and perceive the various houses.

logicbutton - 2013-01-02 01:18 (UTC) - Expand

i always thought the "bad" rep was due to hufflepuff being the charity house, more or less.

not "good" enough for any of the other houses? no worries, helga'll take ya! no one wants to be "the rest".

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logicbutton - 2013-01-02 02:27 (UTC) - Expand

OP here
This is what I meant. I didn't mean Hufflepuff gets a bad rap because women are gross and stupid, and aren't capable of bravery or whatever the other houses have. I meant it as, considering females are stereotyped as having the same sort of traits or personalities; gentle, soft hearted, giving, avoid competition. Those are all stereotypes put upon women.

None of those traits are bad, BUT, people have grown to view them as weak and useless traits to have in a patriarchal society. They think you are not going to have success if you aren't competitive. They think you are a doormat if you have even the slightest gentleness in your personality. I could go on and on.
It is an interesting point on Western society putting emphasis on Individualism. I think that really does play highly into it as well.

I just didn't want to make a tl;dr secret, but I guess I should have known better when it comes to anything with supposed hate on women.

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Okay, those tattoos are hot. UNF. (Not exactly the reaction you were hoping for I imagine. Sorry...)

Rep =/= rap

"Bad rap" is correct.

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Actually, rap would be correct in this instance. Bad rap = someone being known for or associated with something negative that's not their fault or that they haven't done (i.e. they're being "punished" for things they haven't done. Since "rap" was associated with corporal punishment back in the day, getting a bad rap meant being reprimanded for something you haven't done/didn't deserve punishment for). Bad rep = someone having a bad reputation as a direct result of something that they've done or other questionable behaviour.

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INCORRECT USE OF SEMICOLON IS DRIVING ME CRAZY

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