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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-02 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2192 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2192 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
This is a great analogy, but it's still a terrible article because it's perpetuating this idea that seems to be common in much of the social justice world that sexuality, race, and gender are the only real oppressions, or the only ones that matter. A straight white man might be the most privileged person on Earth, or he might be poor, fat, non-conventionally attractive, physically disabled, autistic, mentally ill, and a lot of other things. Things that matter too.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a great article because it's aimed at the people who would be outright overwhelmed by all the other factors you mentioned. They are the kind of people that will think of "ugly", "assburgers", "derpy", etc. as funny insults/words. They are not ready yet.

Seriously, there was such an outrage at sexuality, race and gender alone. These people need to be introduced step by step into these new ideas.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
But why one thing first and not another? I'm not saying that sexuality, gender, and race are not important, not at all. I just hate how so many other things fall by the wayside. I'm a woman and I've been moving away from active involvement in feminism because it's too damaging to hear that literally everything I face as an ugly, fat, autistic, mentally ill person is really because I'm a woman (rather than the truth, which is that these are issues in their own right that *intersect* with oppression of women) and to see these things ignored, or to have to be qualified with one of the big three to really matter.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
because for some reason they tend to be the three issues people tend to accept more as actual issues

which is, of course bullshit, but in real life most of this stuff doesn't have the same exposition as it does in the internet or in certain real life social circuits

there is so, so much ignorance and it's more widespread than you would think

in that way, the internet can be very closed-circuit/feedback-loopy: you start to think that everyone knows or is aware about the same issues that you are

the same can and does happen irl, of course, but I've noticed that it's easier to forget about the great beyond online
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-01-03 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree with this. The thing that annoys me the most about a lot of feminist today is that it totally ignores the idea of intersectionality. To them, racism is not really a race issue, it's a woman issue. Which is ridiculous.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2013-01-03 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, at least with gender and race issues, they're easier for some people to process early on because they're in most cases easily identifiable at first glance. You can very easily go "See that woman over there? See those guys treating her like shit?" or "See that black guy there and now those white people are treating him like shit?" and it's an easy place to start someone off.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
SJW always ignore class. And class is THE defining factor in the Western world (I don't know enough about non-Western societies).