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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-02 06:55 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
"White privilege" doesn't mean "life is easy." It means "life is easier than it would be without that privilege."

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/
In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

This means that the default behaviors for almost all the non-player characters in the game are easier on you than they would be otherwise. The default barriers for completions of quests are lower. Your leveling-up thresholds come more quickly. You automatically gain entry to some parts of the map that others have to work for. The game is easier to play, automatically, and when you need help, by default it’s easier to get.
Doesn't mean you can't lose. Doesn't mean you can't struggle, can't die. Just means the whole damn game is a little (sometimes a lot) easier than it is for people working with other arrangements.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
this is an amazing metaphor! thank you for sharing it. it's going to make explaining this kind of thing to clueless people much easier.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
That article, and the whole privilege argument always sounds like it ignores the individual experience, even when it doesn't (and in this instance it does).

No white man with testicular cancer wants to hear how great he has it.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
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That article, and the whole privilege argument always sounds like it ignores the individual experience, even when it doesn't (and in this instance it does).

Except it doesn't. Even if you missed the paragraphs about the skill points, it's still all in this one sentence: "You can lose playing on the lowest difficulty setting."



(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
and also this part

Doesn't mean you can't lose. Doesn't mean you can't struggle, can't die. Just means the whole damn game is a little (sometimes a lot) easier than it is for people working with other arrangements.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-03 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
See though, that's making the assumption this one thing is still the overall level indicator. The "difficulty level" for life. The writer takes this one aspect and places it with primary importance. I disagree. I wouldn't say it's value can't be discounted, but I hardly think it's an easy mode for life. Especially since, of all things, this takes on a very western centric viewpoint and there are large swarths of the world where this doesn't apply at all.

Geographic location. Intelligence. Physical Attractiveness. Social Skills. Physical Health. Mental Stability. I'd put all of these up there as well. They aren't secondary stats. They are damn important. I can promise you nobody with a deficit in any two of those (any one really but definitely any two) is going to have "easy" life, even if he is a white male.

This article is an over simplification and it leads to oversimplified thinking.
Edited 2013-01-03 06:36 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"Geographic location. Intelligence. Physical Attractiveness. Social Skills. Physical Health. Mental Stability."--And these are also areas in which someone can be privileged, in the sense of "unearned advantage." Although physical attractiveness can be earned or forced by some people--losing weight, or plastic surgery, or whatever. Only stupid people think that being privileged in any one area means that someone's life will be sunshine and rainbows. Whatever privilege any one person has might not seem to make their life better, but if they didn't have it their life would probably look a little bleaker. But no-one sort of privilege is an all-access pass to the "Good Life." When people talk about privilege, it's a kind of shorthand, and when they don't go on to consider how these advantages (or lack of them) interact, people end up metaphorically using the word privilege as a sort of online bludgeon. ... Holy fuck. Privilege doesn't look like a word anymore.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-01-03 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think it also sort of ignores the fact that bad things can still happen to people with a lot of privilege. A straight white male can still get raped, get HIV from his rapist, watch his entire family be murdered in front of him, have a mental illness, etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
This is a great analogy, but it's still a terrible article because it's perpetuating this idea that seems to be common in much of the social justice world that sexuality, race, and gender are the only real oppressions, or the only ones that matter. A straight white man might be the most privileged person on Earth, or he might be poor, fat, non-conventionally attractive, physically disabled, autistic, mentally ill, and a lot of other things. Things that matter too.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a great article because it's aimed at the people who would be outright overwhelmed by all the other factors you mentioned. They are the kind of people that will think of "ugly", "assburgers", "derpy", etc. as funny insults/words. They are not ready yet.

Seriously, there was such an outrage at sexuality, race and gender alone. These people need to be introduced step by step into these new ideas.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
But why one thing first and not another? I'm not saying that sexuality, gender, and race are not important, not at all. I just hate how so many other things fall by the wayside. I'm a woman and I've been moving away from active involvement in feminism because it's too damaging to hear that literally everything I face as an ugly, fat, autistic, mentally ill person is really because I'm a woman (rather than the truth, which is that these are issues in their own right that *intersect* with oppression of women) and to see these things ignored, or to have to be qualified with one of the big three to really matter.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
because for some reason they tend to be the three issues people tend to accept more as actual issues

which is, of course bullshit, but in real life most of this stuff doesn't have the same exposition as it does in the internet or in certain real life social circuits

there is so, so much ignorance and it's more widespread than you would think

in that way, the internet can be very closed-circuit/feedback-loopy: you start to think that everyone knows or is aware about the same issues that you are

the same can and does happen irl, of course, but I've noticed that it's easier to forget about the great beyond online
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-01-03 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree with this. The thing that annoys me the most about a lot of feminist today is that it totally ignores the idea of intersectionality. To them, racism is not really a race issue, it's a woman issue. Which is ridiculous.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2013-01-03 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, at least with gender and race issues, they're easier for some people to process early on because they're in most cases easily identifiable at first glance. You can very easily go "See that woman over there? See those guys treating her like shit?" or "See that black guy there and now those white people are treating him like shit?" and it's an easy place to start someone off.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
SJW always ignore class. And class is THE defining factor in the Western world (I don't know enough about non-Western societies).

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
How about this.

How about we stop beating white people over the heads with a guilt trip and start actually working towards improving cultural, and race relations.

Oh that's right white guilt, is easier...