[ SECRET POST #2196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

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Comments

[luxshine]

I might be completely off but... I'm pretty sure I had heard and read that expression LONG before Firefly, at least since around... Buffy season 3? To give a time frame?

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you did. But since it's the running joke of an entire Firefly episode, I'm pretty sure that's the accepted origin of the exact phrase.

[luxshine]

Ok, see, this is what I don't get.

The exact phrase "I'll be in my bunk" to refer to masturbating was used before Joss Whedon thought of Firefly. People used it, maybe not constantly, but they did. So that's why probably Joss used it as a running joke in an episode and then... why does he get credit for the origin of a phrase he didn't create?

[(Anonymous)]

Because he's JOSS WHEDON, duh.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's the only source we have? If you have another one, I'll take it.

[(Anonymous)]

They already gave you another show that used the phrase.

[(Anonymous)]

No they didn't. Reread the comment.

[(Anonymous)]

Not a good enough reason to either give Firefly the credit or watch firefly to "get references"

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

You ever spend time on TV Tropes? They have a thing there - "Trope Codifer". It means the material classified as such was not the inventor of the trope, but it did come up with the most well known version that everything after draws inspiration from.

That saying may have existed before Firfly, but Firefly made it well known.

[luxshine]

I don't mind that he's credited as the one who made it popular. I mind that he's credited with creating it. And here, it was not treated as if it was popular because of him, but as if he had created it and you couldn't possibly get the full use of a very obvious phrase without having watching Firefly. THAT's why I'm baffled.

In México, we have a very popular expression: "Fue sin querer, queriendo" (I did it on purpose, without meaning to). It was created by a popular TV show, but no one will tell you that you have to see said show in order to get the joke. And no one expects you to know the show and be able to talk about it if you use that expression because the meaning of it is obvious on itself. That's why this puzzles me so much.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Well I do agree with you on that, I've never watched Firefly and I understand well enough the meaning of "I'll be in my bunk". I even understand that most folk know it from Firefly, but I don't see any particular need fro me to watch it.