[ SECRET POST #2196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I find a/b/o utterly weird, but at the same time can get why people really like it on an 'id fic' pure kink level. what i don't get is how you can read 'extreme underage' fic (how did you find it? did you seek it out? or does it just involve one your kinks? like, how?) and not be grossed out. like, you are grossed out by a/b/o it seems because people are forced into sexual roles against their will - and yet you're okay with fic where kids with no ability to make an appropriate choice for themselves are made to have sex. oh, and you also happily read non con too.

i'm not shaming you for reading these things, i just don't get how your mind works.

[(Anonymous)]

In the case of dub-con or under-age the forbidden aspect of it is part of the appeal. A/b/o creeps me out because how simultaneously rapey and utterly normalized it is.
/My 0.02

[(Anonymous)]

+1.

For me this also applies to those BDSM AUs where everyone is dom or sub from birth and there's all this rigid social structure and ~oh they totally want that because biology~ even if the characters are basically being coerced into stuff (and subs are like second-class citizens).

[atgdng]

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[(Anonymous)]

I haven't really read any underage, and I'm not good at non-con either. But part of the extra thing with A/B/O might be the way it makes non-con/enforced sex the norm. With underage and non-con, mostly they're still considered WRONG. Presumably hot, but also still wrong. Whereas A/B/O creates a society where non-con is not only not considered wrong, but actually considered the socially acceptable standard way to do things.

The idea that someone might rape me is terrifying. The idea that someone might rape me, and society will slap them on the back for it ... That that will be my lot in life because that's the way that society works ...

Um. It trips some extra triggers, yes.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd never thought of it this way - I avoid these fics in general because of the OOC factor, and the few I've read were dub-con rather than non-con, but you articulate the problem very well.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yep. Exactly. You expressed that a lot more succinctly than me.

[(Anonymous)]

Because most underage fic only include two underage characters together instead of an adult character and underage character?
That does makes a big difference, even if the "underage" tag became an umbrella tag for both.

[(Anonymous)]

OP said they like disturbing stuff if it's "dealt with appropriately". So I'd assume that they're not into extreme underage being played off as perfectly normal and fun for everyone, but as incredibly problematic and painful. At least that's what I got from the secret.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Haha yeah, that's what confuses me too. I have no problem reading non-con. It's a kink. BUT if it's not properly non-con (as in, the person's basically sort of into it) then it starts creeping me out. Extreme underage where it seems consensual is an absolute no-go. I guess that's why I don't like the a/b/o thing; I can handle depictions of rape, but when you start putting wavering consent issues in, that (if not labelled as consent issues) implies to me you don't really understand what's rape and what's not. Which makes me feel really uncomfortable.
I think another factor is the fact I'm asexual and have a lot of internal worries that, particularly as a female-bodied person, society expects me to be having sex. If we get Freudian about it, universes with assigned sexual roles stir up my subconscious terror that I basically have to have sex whether I want to or not.
...And yet despite this, I love non-con fics. I don't get how my mind works either, in short.