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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-07 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #2197 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2197 ⌋

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Re: AAAAAH I hate Cicero

[personal profile] inkmage 2013-01-08 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Mm, it might be that I was playing with headphones on, but something about his voice just rubbed me the wrong way. He might grow on me, I dunno.

The other thing, which I forgot to mention before, is that his character model looks like he's got too much eye makeup on. It doesn't really contribute to my opinion of him, but... there are ways to make a guy look really good with makeup on, and in my (lesbian) opinion, that wasn't one of them.

(Yeah, I can tell his voice actor's having fun. His character animation? Not so much. Especially after he finds you in the coffin. He's standing there ranting and raving but for all that his body language is doing he could well be saying, "Now, what was it? Oh, yes, why don't you harvest some wheat for me?"
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Re: AAAAAH I hate Cicero

[personal profile] ziltoidianrapture 2013-01-08 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Cicero really doesn't come off as a guy who could stay still for the few moments it would take to apply all that eyeliner. At least that's what I remember thinking about the first time I saw him in the game. And the makeup just _pops_ since he's super pale if you don't count his rosy cheeks or nose.

(Yeah, I can tell his voice actor's having fun. His character animation? Not so much. Especially after he finds you in the coffin. He's standing there ranting and raving but for all that his body language is doing he could well be saying, "Now, what was it? Oh, yes, why don't you harvest some wheat for me?"

... Aaand now I'm pretty sure that the next time I'm playing the Dark Brotherhood quest line I'll just imagine Cicero playing the role of a slightly huffy farmer :P But as far as I can tell, a lot of the characters in Skyrim have that problem. It just really sticks out with characters like Cicero, because judging by their voices they should be animated as damn when they're talking, but instead they just... settle for waving their arms a bit. I do like that little dance he does, but it's not quite enough to make up for his otherwise poor body language.
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Re: AAAAAH I hate Cicero

[personal profile] inkmage 2013-01-08 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's like, there are several guys I wouldn't mind seeing eyeliner or other makeup on in Skyrim. Cicero... could be one of them, but not as he is right now.

Honestly the dragons probably have the whole animation thing down better than any of the humans. Especially Odahviing and Alduin. But Astrid has it pretty bad - she's very... slinky, and she very much knows what she's doing with her voice as least, and I would have liked to see her body language match. There's one point where she gives this throaty, sarcastic laugh and I would have liked for her to tilt her head back or something, because that's what people usually do when they make that sound.

But... I understand why they didn't do that. 'Cause if you do it for one character, you have to do it for them all, or the rest look really bad. And that would take forever, and probably be really hard unless you used some pretty intense motion capture (ex: having character put their hands on their hips, rather than in them), as well as probably making the file size absolutely enormous (well, bigger than it is now). Plus more money, etc.