case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-08 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2198 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2198 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.
[Nikita]


__________________________________________________



03.
[Game of Thrones]


__________________________________________________



04.
[Storage Wars Texas]


__________________________________________________



05.
[Professor Layton games]


__________________________________________________



06.
[The Incredible Hulk]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Gerard Way of My Chemical Romance]


__________________________________________________



08.
[The Hunger Games]


__________________________________________________



09.
[Lost Girl]


__________________________________________________



10.
[Kuroko no Basket, K Project, Ookiku Furikabutte]


__________________________________________________



11.
[Bust a groove 2]


__________________________________________________



12.
[The Hobbit]


__________________________________________________










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #314.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's about baseball and it's pretty cute/funny at points. That said, I don't know why OP is even comparing these shows and their fandoms. Ookiku Furikabutte is classified as humor (I'm not too familiar with it myself.) Kuroko no Basket is more on the drama end of things, and K is drama/action. They're entirely different genres.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. They all are marketed to yaoi fangirls market with LotsOfHotBoiz having nakama feels for each other. The "plot" and it's genre is of no importance here.
Just like Arcana Famiglia, Hakuoki or Amnesia are not about mafia and their dealings/ shinsenigumi and their impact on history of their country/ slice of life about dealing with amnesia, as they could appear from a description, but about bunch of HotBoiz swooning over main heroine. It becomes apparent after 2 episodes, in which they prove to not follow any plot, just random happenings with HotBoiz.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
If you say so. I don't personally agree because I like my hot boys in specific genres, but that may be just me.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I like my hot boys interesting and driving compelling story forward. Not participating in "lets search for a cat, with a randomly chosen guy from cast, and forget totally that there was supposed to be plot somewhere there". I've got bored to death of it during Gakuen Heaven, and now I can't take any shoujo/yaoi fangirls-pandering dating sim anime seriously.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Your issues is that you're taking them seriously. Dating sims and BL games are supposed to be about ridiculous hot dudes and fluff.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me for liking stuff that has more to offer than cardboard character eyecandy.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't think the problem is you liking stuff that fits whatever qualifications you have; the problem is that you sound like you might be a dick about other people liking things you don't like.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Anon that started the conversation, the person you're replying to was not me. And I'm really sorry for sounding like a dick, it wasn't my intention. I hope I explained myself better in my reply below.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, thank you. :) I never know which anons I'm replying to (for that matter, I was the initial dissenting anon but none of the others) but I shouldn't have assumed anyway. Your point is very valid.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Your point? And game marketed to men are about ridiculous hot girls but somehow there is many that also manage to not only make those girls interesting, but also put there really awsome plots. Higurashi and Umineko, ChaosHead, Steins;Gate or the whole Fate/ series.

But apparently when reverse harem or BL harem happens, there is no need for cool plot, characters with actual personalities and goals. Nope, just draw them nicely and write lot of random fluff, and they will love it anyway.

Yes I'm bitter that only guys get the fun stuff :(

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
IDK about reverse harems since I don't play those but Nitro+Chiral makes some pretty interesting BL games with plots.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say for the Togainu no Chi game, I heard it got good plot that was butchered by anime. Which is....yes, pretty weak. And so far to my knowledge the other titles of nitro (lamento, sweet pool and dramasomething) are pretty good in terms of plot and characters, but they never got anime adaptation.

And if they did, it would probably be just as bad as TnC. Because the producers will go: who cares about the original plot and stuff, just draw lot of pretty boys and random events from the game on lowest budget possible.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
TnC anime was embarrassing . Seriously, if they were just gonna go with the whole pretty boy without plot thing I'm kinda bummed that they didn't just turn it into full out porn like sensitive pornograph.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
If they made it into OAV they could make it into smut. But OAV sell less than the TV series, and you can't have smut in a TV series.
Unless it's Yosuga no Sora.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
TL;DR anime industry just doesn't care about making anime adaptations of manga/games/novels, or even original concepts, aimed at female audience anymore.

Times of long-running shoujo series are long gone, and are never going to come back

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
What's your issue with HotBoiz

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
As said above, I love them, but only when they're interesting and take part in actual plot!

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure Ookiku and Kuroko are really aimed to a female audience, but leaving that aside...

If you want plot, stay away from sport manga/anime, since the 'plot' is always the same (with some small difference here and there so it doesn't seem generic): get stronger, win against rivals, win a tournament. END.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't comparing the shows themselves or their fandoms, just that my particular group of friends cream themselves over the hoyay in those two shows and I can't join in because it's just "meh" to me because Oofuri has a lot more exploration of interpersonal relationships in a close-knit community, but I've only managed to get one of them to watch it and I'm not even sure they got very far. So I'm somewhat convinced that the pretty colors and hawt bishounen are more important to them in their ships than, oh I don't know, actual chemistry, and that makes me sad.

That said, Oofuri and Kurobasu are both sports anime, so they do at least have something in common (I admit that K is the odd one out here), and I find it ridiculously hard to believe that a show that had an English line of "THIS IS JAPANESE LUNCH TIME RUSH" is drama and Oofuri isn't. Oofuri is more slice-of-life, yes, but it deals with some deep topics. It's pretty condescending to classify it as strictly humor.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. You're probably right about the appeal of the pairings in some shows being more on the shallow end than others, and it sucks when people don't like your show. :(

(I didn't classify it as humor, btw--Wikipedia did. Like I said, I've only seen bits and pieces, and I wasn't interested because of the sports.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I figured you'd gotten the classification from elsewhere - I wasn't aiming that at you, sorry. I just find people's parameters for genre classification rather arbitrary and ultimately pointless.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they cream themeselves over it because they find the technicolor bishies hot. As opposed to not finding children hot. No matter the chemistry some people just are not interested in innocent shipping of such young characters.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Except they're all about the same age - in high school. Just because the Kurobasu characters look like they're 25 doesn't actually change the fact that it's still shipping 15/16-year-olds. And yeah, they're mostly shipping Kuro/Shiro over any of the older characters, so I don't think they mind shipping teenagers.

I'm not actually judging them for liking it - or at least, I'm trying not to. I don't mean to come off that way. They're free to enjoy what they want, after all. I'm just sad that they won't give something else with a lot of hoyay a chance when cute/innocent shipping actually seems right up their alley. ("Creaming themselves" was a bad choice of words, since I've no idea what they do with their ships. "Squee over" is generally what I've actually seen them do.)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Their real age doesn't matter. Main hero of Okane ga Nai is 18, perfectly legal, but he still looks like elementary kid, and I just can't bear to see him in those sexcual situations, because dang, it's a kid.
Same thing is at play here. Kuroko characters maybe the same age as Oofuri, or they can be even younger. But they don't look their age, and thus the brain can process them as adult.