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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-08 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2198 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2198 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Nikita]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Storage Wars Texas]


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[Professor Layton games]


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[The Incredible Hulk]


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[Gerard Way of My Chemical Romance]


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[The Hunger Games]


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[Lost Girl]


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[Kuroko no Basket, K Project, Ookiku Furikabutte]


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[Bust a groove 2]


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[The Hobbit]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #314.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always looking for good anime. Somebody tell me more about Ookiku Furikabutte and why I should watch it.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Little shota boys playing with balls.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Hot.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's about baseball and it's pretty cute/funny at points. That said, I don't know why OP is even comparing these shows and their fandoms. Ookiku Furikabutte is classified as humor (I'm not too familiar with it myself.) Kuroko no Basket is more on the drama end of things, and K is drama/action. They're entirely different genres.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. They all are marketed to yaoi fangirls market with LotsOfHotBoiz having nakama feels for each other. The "plot" and it's genre is of no importance here.
Just like Arcana Famiglia, Hakuoki or Amnesia are not about mafia and their dealings/ shinsenigumi and their impact on history of their country/ slice of life about dealing with amnesia, as they could appear from a description, but about bunch of HotBoiz swooning over main heroine. It becomes apparent after 2 episodes, in which they prove to not follow any plot, just random happenings with HotBoiz.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
If you say so. I don't personally agree because I like my hot boys in specific genres, but that may be just me.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I like my hot boys interesting and driving compelling story forward. Not participating in "lets search for a cat, with a randomly chosen guy from cast, and forget totally that there was supposed to be plot somewhere there". I've got bored to death of it during Gakuen Heaven, and now I can't take any shoujo/yaoi fangirls-pandering dating sim anime seriously.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Your issues is that you're taking them seriously. Dating sims and BL games are supposed to be about ridiculous hot dudes and fluff.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me for liking stuff that has more to offer than cardboard character eyecandy.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
What's your issue with HotBoiz

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
As said above, I love them, but only when they're interesting and take part in actual plot!

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure Ookiku and Kuroko are really aimed to a female audience, but leaving that aside...

If you want plot, stay away from sport manga/anime, since the 'plot' is always the same (with some small difference here and there so it doesn't seem generic): get stronger, win against rivals, win a tournament. END.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't comparing the shows themselves or their fandoms, just that my particular group of friends cream themselves over the hoyay in those two shows and I can't join in because it's just "meh" to me because Oofuri has a lot more exploration of interpersonal relationships in a close-knit community, but I've only managed to get one of them to watch it and I'm not even sure they got very far. So I'm somewhat convinced that the pretty colors and hawt bishounen are more important to them in their ships than, oh I don't know, actual chemistry, and that makes me sad.

That said, Oofuri and Kurobasu are both sports anime, so they do at least have something in common (I admit that K is the odd one out here), and I find it ridiculously hard to believe that a show that had an English line of "THIS IS JAPANESE LUNCH TIME RUSH" is drama and Oofuri isn't. Oofuri is more slice-of-life, yes, but it deals with some deep topics. It's pretty condescending to classify it as strictly humor.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. You're probably right about the appeal of the pairings in some shows being more on the shallow end than others, and it sucks when people don't like your show. :(

(I didn't classify it as humor, btw--Wikipedia did. Like I said, I've only seen bits and pieces, and I wasn't interested because of the sports.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I figured you'd gotten the classification from elsewhere - I wasn't aiming that at you, sorry. I just find people's parameters for genre classification rather arbitrary and ultimately pointless.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they cream themeselves over it because they find the technicolor bishies hot. As opposed to not finding children hot. No matter the chemistry some people just are not interested in innocent shipping of such young characters.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Except they're all about the same age - in high school. Just because the Kurobasu characters look like they're 25 doesn't actually change the fact that it's still shipping 15/16-year-olds. And yeah, they're mostly shipping Kuro/Shiro over any of the older characters, so I don't think they mind shipping teenagers.

I'm not actually judging them for liking it - or at least, I'm trying not to. I don't mean to come off that way. They're free to enjoy what they want, after all. I'm just sad that they won't give something else with a lot of hoyay a chance when cute/innocent shipping actually seems right up their alley. ("Creaming themselves" was a bad choice of words, since I've no idea what they do with their ships. "Squee over" is generally what I've actually seen them do.)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Their real age doesn't matter. Main hero of Okane ga Nai is 18, perfectly legal, but he still looks like elementary kid, and I just can't bear to see him in those sexcual situations, because dang, it's a kid.
Same thing is at play here. Kuroko characters maybe the same age as Oofuri, or they can be even younger. But they don't look their age, and thus the brain can process them as adult.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's a sports anime where all the sports is realistic, everyone has realistic abilities, and the personalities are 3-d and endearing in every way. There is no EVIL RIVAL SPORTS TEAM, there are just people on the other teams (and you will cry for the losing teams). All the characters are sweet, and everything about it is great.
herongale: (mizutani- bluh)

[personal profile] herongale 2013-01-09 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
OKAY LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OOFURI.

This is, first off, the best fandom I have ever been a part of! I have made some of the best friends in it, it has a surprisingly good amount of fanfic for how small the non-Japanese fanbase is, there is TONS of fan art (most of it actually fluffy cute although there is some porn too tbh-- hard not to have that when in episode #2 one of the boys stands up in the bus and is all "oh no I forgot to masturbate!").

Also: a love of sports or baseball is NOT REQUIRED to enjoy Oofuri. Oofuri does its work well in making baseball seem fun, even to people who otherwise could care less about sports. This is not just me: a lot of fans come into Oofuri without caring about baseball at all.

But forgetting about the fandom, the anime series is just GOOD. It's animated by A1 Pictures, who also animates series such as Ao no Exorcist, Shin Sekai Yori, AnoHana, Tsuritama, Magi: the Labyrinth of Magic... several well known series from recent years. The storyline is just the most refreshingly honest and realistic portrayal of high school life I've seen in anime, and it's just exceedingly sweet and full of amazingly complex characters... the complexity of the characterization is something I had never expected going into it, but wow it's just AMAZING.

But anyway, if you are real serious about wanting to be convinced, I actually wrote a nearly 10,000 word ship manifesto for the main Oofuri pairing a couple years back. Despite being a shipping manifesto I also consider it a manifesto to sell the series just in general, because I explain some of the basic plot things and try my best to show why it's something that is TRULY TRULY WONDERFUL and why I LOVE IT SO MUCH.

My manifesto can be found here and at the bottom of the page I list all sorts of links to fandom resources that would be good for a new fan/potential fan to look into.

Right now the fandom is kind of in a quiet stage, mostly I think because we are all waiting for the third anime series to be announced. I have no doubts whatsoever that one WILL be announced. Oofuri is VERY popular in Japan, both as an anime and a manga, and even though the second series wasn't licensed for non-Japanese audiences, it did very well in it's own home country, and that's really all it takes to feel sure that more will eventually coming down the pipe.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I love this comment ;w;

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
for a second I was like ...bigdots?

why no love for the rest of the team(s)

there's more characters than just abe and mihashi
herongale: (haruna- smug but pleased)

[personal profile] herongale 2013-01-09 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh man but don't I know it! My actual OTP for Oofuri actually changed over time... I got REALLY into Haruna/Akimaru and I still ship them more than anyone else. I also adore Haruna/Abe as a ship THAT SHOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN BUT I LOVE THE UNREQUITEDNESS AND FUCKEDUPEDNESS OF IT ALL. I also ship Izumi/Mizutani, Sakaeguchi/Abe, Mizutani/Abe, Tajima/Hanai, Chiyo/Mizutani, Hamada/CHEER GIRLS, Kanou/Ruri, Kanou/Hatake, Kazu/Junta, and um

how can I forget

my most shameful love of all

TAKII/ROKA

(I know I know, Roka is EVIL, the only truly bad guy character of all of Oofuri, but I tend to be drawn to guys like that so long as they are not real and are just characters.)

... and also lots of other pairings that I just neglected to mention.

ANYWAY HOWEVER. EVERY CHARACTER IS BASICALLY WONDERFUL.

Do you really want me to go on about other characters? I am more than happy to go on about any characters. XDDDD

(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I love every single character and I still consider oofuri to be my main fandom but I've never shipped Abe and Mihashi. my greatest failure, lol

probably the only person who would prefer Suyama/Sakaeguchi over Abe/Mihashi but every ship is its own thing I don't even mind

(Anonymous) 2013-01-10 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I've been reading your Daiken fic and to see that you also like AbeMiha, well you just made my day. I can't stop smiling. *Goes off to read the manifesto*