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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-09 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2199 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2199 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-10 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I know it’s just a game, but this is the kind of topic that hits a little too close to home, if you know what I mean. I absolutely want Chantry reform to happen though, so hopefully the next game will allow that. I can’t get behind the total destruction of the Chantry though, because that’s the only organization that provides care for refugees, orphans, and widows all over Thedas. You say they don’t do anything for people in need, but the Chantry was the first place people would know to go to if their home was destroyed by darkspawn. I have a much less favorable opinion on how it’s run in Kirkwall, but as a whole I don’t think we should completely ignore the good. The main problem with the Chantry, imo, is that it has too much power, most (if not all) of which is due to their teachings on magic and the resulting Circle system. Teachings that have no basis in their holy text whatsoever (magic is a gift, not a curse, yet look at how much self-loathing many Circle mages have!).

Yet at the same time, I think a lot of people (myself included) are quick to jump on the “free all the mages” bandwagon without fully realizing the consequences. While their methods may be extreme, the Chantry is right when they say that magic is dangerous. A three year old could accidentally burn down a village during a temper tantrum. A nine year old could completely ruin a family’s only source of income by freezing their crops as a prank. An inexperienced adolescent could accidentally electrocute and kill her partner during sex. A spurned lover could use blood magic to control and rape the person he desires. What no one really talks about is what comes after the mages get their freedom. Obviously the current system is problematic, but there needs to be some kind of educational system put in place.

I used to feel the same way you did about Elthina at one point, but looking back at it I really don’t think she’s as bad as a lot of people make her out to be. She didn’t do anything to brew bad relations; she tried to act as a neutral party and keep the peace. You say she treated the mages like children, but I think she did the same to the Templars, if not more so (I’m thinking of her confrontation with Meredith in the beginning of Act 3). She’s a spiritual figurehead to the people, so yes, she is going to act like their mother (that’s one her titles, right?). Sebastian says that Meredith no longer was talking Elthina’s advice in Act 3, which shows that Elthina was trying to do something to try to curb Meredith’s craziness, but was unsuccessful. You can argue that she should have alerted the higher-ups, but given how the city was like a ticking timb bomb I can’t entirely fault her for not wanting to stir the pot, especially with the threat of the Right of Annulment hanging in the air.

I don’t like to discuss “what if’s” because I believe they are generally unproductive in discussions. Tensions were obviously running high, but there is no way to “know” that there would be a massive Annulment without Anders’ involvement. For all we “know,” Meredith could have been assassinated, Elthina could have put her foot down, or an alien spacecraft could have flown over Kirkwall and abducted all the mages. What we DO know is that Anders’ involvement lead to the slaughter of all the mages, something which I believe he had no right to get them involved in. Yes, many were abused and killed, but ALL of them? No. Anders’ actions however, were undoubtedly intended to lead to the death of every single mage, including the children.

I think we’re generally on the same page in that we want less power for the Chantry and more freedom for mages. Hopefully the next game will allow each of us to be as brutal or a pacifistic as we wish :)