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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-14 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2204 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2204 ⌋

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n!s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think I ever see anyone keeping this a secret. Plenty of people who prefer or exclusively enjoy non-con with female victims keep that a secret, though.
ariakas: (Default)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Plenty of people who prefer or exclusively enjoy non-con with female victims keep that a secret, though.

Not the dudes in any of my fandoms, they don't. They'll genderswap (male) characters into female ones just to write noncon, in fact.

Re: n!s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Creepy.
ariakas: (BFFs)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

Re: n!s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Not creepier than anyone else writing noncon where a guy is getting raped.

Re: n!s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
If your fetish is not "this character gets raped," but "I must have this character be raped AS A WOMAN," it says something about how you view rape. Something creepy. That it doesn't happen to men, as well.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-15 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe they just find heterosexual noncon hot and homosexual noncon untitilating.

Sometimes it's just about jerking off you know. Not rape culture. Just orgasms.
ariakas: (Default)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Not anon you responded to, but it's never just "I'm not that into dudes, so, this is about a woman" (if that were the case there are other female characters to choose from) it is pretty much always "well this wouldn't happen to (said character) as a man/this is "price" of being a woman/let's take this bitch down a notch/etc."

Male!Sniper A has awesome adventures! Female!Sniper A gets nothing but rape.
insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-15 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
But that way it's not gay!
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-15 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Is it creepy that they write noncon for females and not males? Or is it just the way they do it/talk about it? The latter I could definitely see; the former would really just be ykinmk wouldn't it?
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's the way they write about it. Rape with these (genderswapped) women is often referred to as the "price" of being female, etc. Especially since these are largely military fiction based fandoms, and men in the military/POWs are raped all the time. It's implying that this is the proper place for women, as well as erasing male victims, all at once.

So yeah, it's creepy as fuck.
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-15 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

*shoots horrified look in the general direction of those fics*

Creepy is an understatement, there.
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. I learned long ago not to bother with fics that are Gendswapped!(insert character here) because while I first I was like "neato! (insert character here) is a badass! I love badass women!" IT IS ALWAYS RAPE.
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-15 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
That's too bad too, since I think in general genderswapping is a really intriguing concept.
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-15 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Same, alas.

The art is worse. Not only is the genderswapped art also almost always rape, it subtracts a decade (or three) from the character's age and shows as much skin as possible. A woman over 20? Ugh. Nobody wants that.

You know what female soldiers really need? Cleavage and pigtails, apparently.

Sometimes I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: n!s

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-15 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand some people at all. eurgh.
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-01-15 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Man, am I glad I'm not in your fandoms...

I <3 genderswaps, even when done badly, but I have my limits. v_v
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Re: n!s

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-15 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Okay admittedly despite my comments above there's pretty much no way that isn't fucked up people behind the fucked up writing.