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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-14 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2204 ]


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(frozen comment) Re: Why demisexual is not an orientation

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
So, are you saying asexuality is also not an orientation? Because it's not gender-related, either. This post came up way early last night (not by me) but I'm going to copy and paste it anyway, because I think it sums up how a lot of people who id as demi feel:

I think some of the problem comes from the word "attraction." I'm going to toss out a really antiquated term here for simplicity's sake, but I think when talking about, like, courtship and trying to find someone that you would want to build a life with, I think we all DO pretty much do it the same way -- by getting to know people, forming connections and being intimate.

But when it comes to *attraction* -- just looking at someone and feeling like "my, my, they are sex on a stick!" -- that immediate sexual attraction that so many people feel (regardless of whether they would ever act on those feelings without getting to know the object of said feelings)? I don't feel that.

Never have, not once in my 30 years, and the only conclusion I've drawn from that is that it's an odd way to be. Because that is now how I've seen people around me be.

But rather than people being OK with letting me and people like me have a label for finding other people who can relate, people jump up and down and get affronted because they've got it in their head that everyone* who says "I''m not like you," is actually saying "I'm better than you. There's something wrong with you, because you're not like me." Which is kind of ironic, because then they turn around and throw that very sentiment back at us -- with "you just want to be a special snowflake, and that's something wrong with you, because -- unlike me -- you can't recognize how ridiculous you're being."

And no, it's not oppression because some people on the internet are mean to me, but it's not a nice feeling either.

* I'm under no delusion that there aren't people who identify as demisexual who are just as slut-shamey as people say, but it is hurtful when people blatantly ignore, mock or devalue the person who says "but I'M not like that. We're NOT all like that," just because they had a bad experience.


It got followed up with a shit-ton of "BUT YOU'RE NOT OPPRESSED!" But read it. Seriously, READ IT. We're not all claiming to *~oppressed~*.

(frozen comment) Re: Why demisexual is not an orientation

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Sexual orientation is a person's attraction (or lack their of) related to a gender. :)

(frozen comment) Re: Why demisexual is not an orientation

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Again, that does not make it an orientation. A woman is sexually attracted to both men and women, but only after she forms a bond. She is Bisexual, not Bisexual Demisexual. She experiences her Bisexuality in a certain way, but it isn't an orientation.

(frozen comment) Re: Why demisexual is not an orientation

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, maybe you're not claiming to be oppressed, but seriously? A ton of people feel this way. It is not a special sexual orientation to not be attracted to many people.

When you're this determined to examine yourself to the extent that you convince yourself you're somehow different from most other humans, I'm sorry, that does come off as thinking you're maybe not better, but 'more special' than others. Hence the special snowflake backlash.

(frozen comment) da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm sorry, that does come off as thinking you're maybe not better, but 'more special' than others."

Not to me. You sound like you're projecting some insecurity of your own into your interpretation.

(frozen comment) Re: da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
To claim you are demisexual you must also claim you are different from a self proclaimed norm. The projecting is on the demis side, really.

(frozen comment) Re: da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
No, there is a perception on the demis side of being different. The projection that different =better is all you.

(frozen comment) Re: da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
They're projecting their sexual experience is different, even though it isn't.

(frozen comment) Re: da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
EITHER WAY, different does not equal better.

(frozen comment) Re: da, not demi

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
If you need to make up a label to be different from people, just so you aren't like what you consider 'dem normies', then yeah, you really are.