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[ SECRET POST #2205 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2205 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[Transformers Prime]
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[Rise Of The Guardians, Journey into Mystery]
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[Wreck-It Ralph]
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[Once Upon a Time]
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[Nina Hagen]
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-16 01:56 am (UTC)(link)What I saw in the show: Their interactions, though brief, were very telling. Every other non-Eradicon's interactions with one another were very tight and guarded, cementing the common fanon that the Decepticon faction is nothing but feral cats staring each other down from opposite corners and waiting for the other to make the first move to attack. Knock Out and Breakdown never came across that way with one another. Knock Out was the brains of the duo, and Breakdown appeared more than happy to be the brawn.
Their interactions with the other Decepticons were rather telling as well, or at least Breakdown's were. Every other Decepticon either ignored or smacked around the Eradicons as if they were no more than tin foil with legs. Breakdown was shown chatting with them like co-workers on lunch break, and he told Fowler-who-he-thought-was-an-Eradicon that he "knew [building the space bridge/mining] was a thankless job but to keep up the good work". That's not a pep talk any of the other Decepticons would be caught dead giving to a lowly "drone", I'm sure.
This isn't even going into all the hints of potential backstory we were given but were never built upon like Bulkhead's claim of "We have a history" - what history? Curious viewers want to know. Was Breakdown formerly a Wrecker? Did Breakdown kill Bulkhead's pre-Wheeljack BFF? Was Breakdown the schoolyard bully and stole Bulkhead's lunch money all the time? Even just "we have a history" and their epic rivalry is more of a background tease than any Decepticon who isn't Megatron got in the show.
So, yah, I have to say they are different from the other Decepticons. The writers just rushed through or didn't communicate well enough to show it. Not saying you have to agree with me, and you're welcome to disagree, but I had to say something.
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That's not a unique trait, though - Dreadwing and Skyquake were the same way (though we don't get to see it on-screen, due to Skyquake's death in his first appearance, it's quite clear from Dreadwing's actions when he eventually appeared) - and, unlike Knock Out (who happily goes along with Starscream's treason), they show actual loyalty to Megatron, so the car-cons are actually around the middle of the pack when it comes to loyalty to others.
All the Decepticons have different loyalties - Screamer and Airachnid only to themselves. Knock Out and Breakdown to each other. Dreadwing and Skyquake to each other and Megatron. Soundwave (so far as we know so far) only to Megatron. The Insecticons, once wrested from Airachnid's control, to Megatron and each other. The Vehicons...who knows? There's plenty of in-fighting, sure, but aside from Starscream and Airachnid, the idea that it's every bot for himself is not borne out by canon. (The one thing none of them seem to have any loyalty to is the Decepticons' nominal cause.)
And, yeah, Breakdown's interactions with the fake-Vehicon was interesting, but, it doesn't actually read to me the way you're reading it - quite the opposite in fact, if any meaning beyond 'silly gag' is going to be read into it. Fowler initiated the chit-chat - a strange Vehicon that Breakdown had never interacted with started making smalltalk, and he never really missed a beat, nor warned him to be careful who he chit-chats with. Either it's not that unusual for the Vehicons and the Names to interact on a friendly level (something we never see any of the Cons do at all - even Knock Out and Breakdown, or Dreadwing and Skyquake), or Breakdown doesn't really care of a Vehicon gets himself flogged for wasting time by being social with the Names, when Soundwave or Megatron decides to give them an order.
And, while it would be nice to see some of Breakdown and Bulkhead's interactions from the past, there's absolutely no reason to think there's more to it than 'Bulk was a Wrecker (one of the Autobots' more aggressive subfactions), and they're the Big Guys of their respective groups, so they've ended up fighting each other a lot'.