[ SECRET POST #2205 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2205 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Transformers Prime]


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03.
[Rise Of The Guardians, Journey into Mystery]


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04.
[The Hobbit/The Hillywood Show]


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05.
[Katawa Shoujo]


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06.
[Wreck-It Ralph]


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07.
[Journey into Mystery]


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08.
[Due South]


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09.
[Star Trek: TNG]


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10.
[Fate/Stay Night]


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11.
[Weird Science]


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12.
[Deception]


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13.
[Labyrinth]


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14.
[Once Upon a Time]


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15.
[Nina Hagen]


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16.
[BlazBlue]


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17.
[Sanctuary]


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18.
[Blade Runner]


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19.
[Kieron Gillen]


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20.
[Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]


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21.
[Happy Endings/American Dad]


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22.
[Flesh for Frankenstein]


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Notes:

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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

02. http://oi45.tinypic.com/egscuq.jpg
[Transformers Prime]

[diet_poison]

That reminds me I need to get back into that show.

The season 2 opener was good, but then after that it was right back to filler and my motivation to watch kind of vanished. Which seems really silly, I just have a lot of other things...

[(Anonymous)]

Since the first comment to this post shows that there are still people who are interested in the show but haven't watched all of season 2 (which boggles me, to be honest, but I'll do the polite thing), I'll mark this as a spoiler.

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Now, my response to the OP:

This. All of this. I could have done with them killing any of the other Decepticons, but Breakdown had the most potential for personality development, backstory, and was the most likeable Decepticon on the show.

What makes me sadder is there is so little fic exploring these holes the show left behind.

[(Anonymous)]

Transformers Prime: the show of wasted potential.

[(Anonymous)]

Am I the only one who thinks this potential could have actually been built upon if they'd gone with traditional animation rather than the much-more-expensive-and-time-consuming CGI?

[(Anonymous)]

Frankly, I think CGI was an absolutely atrocious choice for a show set on modern-day Earth, because it resulted in a disturbingly empty planet. I mean, they go to New York and only meet one other person. Nevermind that there only seem to be, like, ten people living in Jasper. Not to mention how there's a shit-ton of alien technology hanging around right out in the open it seems, and nobody's ever noticed it until the Transformers got there??

At least past CGI shows like Beast Wars worked their limitations into the setting (ie. prehistoric Earth means no expectation of several billion humans chilling around).

Compare TFP to Rescue Bots. RB may be a much kiddier show, but it provides a town that feels like an actual town, full of people and colorful characters. Also, I think it does significantly than TFP at characterization and actually following up on plot points. Frankly, other than animation (RB has really simple, cheap-looking art and animation), I think RB is a generally superior show than TFP.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with everything you said. I've never been a fan of CGI. Yes, it's pretty to look at, but only in stills or as feature-length movies where they have the budget to make it shine. It does not replace good old hand-drawn cartoons which have far fewer limitations.

[neoyi.livejournal.com]

I want to hug you for the Rescue Bots comment because that show needs more love. Pretty much everything with this set of comments. Season Two of Transformers Prime has been a veritable waste of plot potential. It's basically like they're setting up a story and/or character arc, build it up, conclude it, then resort back to status quo with none the worse for wear and little to no consequences. The frustrating thing is that this largely affects the Autobots (because the Cons actually do have a slightly better continuity) and given they're the central characters, it's maddening.

Man, Breakdown, I wish I could have been more interested in you. Season One provided hints of a deeper character underneath that could have made me like him, but alas, no. But I do love Knock Out and until Season Two expanded on his cray-cray personality (which I loooooove), I actually can accept his shallow personality because he himself is shallow! Okay, I admit this is partially bias; Knock Out is my favorite character in the show, though it doesn't save it from its mediocrity.

Rescue Bots may not have the ambition, but I always watch a show for its character first, story second, and RB is filled with vivid personalities and amazing chemistry from the cast. Also Blades. Love Blades. Forever.

[eaten_by_bears]

I didn't keep up with Prime, but I'd gotten the impression that Knockout went kind of crazy after Breakdown's death, and tortured a guy in revenge?

[dinogrrl]

He didn't go crazy as far as I can tell, but he at least reacted to Breakdown's death, even if it wasn't as strong of a reaction as most fans think there should have been. On the one hand, his mild reaction bothers me, but on the other, I think it bothers me more due to my own personal fanon than anything that's been explicitly stated in canon, and given canon circumstances/characterizations I'm not really complaining with how they handled it. If that makes any sense.

But yes, Knock Out did get his revenge by experimenting on/torturing a guy. I still want to see what happens if/when Knock Out ever comes across Airachnid again though.

[(Anonymous)]

My problem with his reaction was it was so damned late. Seriously, writers? It took Knock Out twelve episodes to show any sort of reaction to the death of the one mech who, for all appearances, seemed to be his only friend? He remarked on it five episodes after Breakdown's death, but it was not handled well at all (more like "I will do well in Breakdown's memory! *Sailor Moon pose*")

As an anon said above: Transformers Prime should be retitled to Transformers Wasted Potential

[dinogrrl]

I completely agree about the show having a lot of wasted potential. It's like they can't decide if they want this to be a Srs Biznes kids' show or just another kids' Transformers series and instead they just said "eff it" and take the lazy way out at almost every opportunity. It's so frustrating because the show itself has a really good setup and interesting characters and POTENTIAL.

[eaten_by_bears]

I must have gotten the 'he goes crazy' idea from a gif I saw. He's leaning over Silas, I think? Anyway, he has eyes like a husky. Just looks nuts.

[dinogrrl]

He does look crazy. I think that's just how his eyes get animated though, Megatron's eyes do the same thing in some expressions.
But who knows, if he's setting out to torture the guy who stole his friend's body, he's probably got a few loose screws in there. :p

[(Anonymous)]

He does get a little crazy, but it's kind of too little too late at that point, especially when he was pretty much the only good point of that episode which proceeded to fail to utterly do anything meaningful with Breakdown's death to make up for losing his potential as a character.

Instead we just got Silas suddenly going incredibly out of character and deciding to metaphorically suck Megatron's cock because... I have no idea why, because frankly I can't understand why anybody follows Megatron in this universe. It was okay when it seemed like he had the crazies from doing too much Unicron blood, but now he's just terrible. And then it backfires on him and he gets taken out of the picture in one episode, yay? Why could they have done this with one of the millions of characterless Eradicons who get left dead all over the place?

This show seems utterly incapable of actually setting up a plot and then resolving it in a satisfactory manner. Plot points that seem like they should be game changers that should span an entire story arc get resolved in one or two episodes (Airachnid's Insecticon army, what? Optimus's amnesia, what what?). The second season also completely leeched away my ability to care about what happened to any of the characters, because they and their motivations want pretty much completely undeveloped from where they were in the first season. I need character moments show, not just random action and violence against faceless drones, and endless searching for ~mystical ancient weapons~ just because.

[dinogrrl]

One the one hand, yes, I definitely agree. On the other, well, at least we've got lots of room for fanfic?

[kamino_neko]

But...They're not different than the other 'Cons, in any meaningful way - the choice of a land-based alt mode is their only significant difference from any other named member of the faction, and despite Screamer's reaction to it, that's not so big a thing as to require more explanation than Knock Out's 'I like cars'.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP - Going to have to politely disagree with you here.

What I saw in the show: Their interactions, though brief, were very telling. Every other non-Eradicon's interactions with one another were very tight and guarded, cementing the common fanon that the Decepticon faction is nothing but feral cats staring each other down from opposite corners and waiting for the other to make the first move to attack. Knock Out and Breakdown never came across that way with one another. Knock Out was the brains of the duo, and Breakdown appeared more than happy to be the brawn.

Their interactions with the other Decepticons were rather telling as well, or at least Breakdown's were. Every other Decepticon either ignored or smacked around the Eradicons as if they were no more than tin foil with legs. Breakdown was shown chatting with them like co-workers on lunch break, and he told Fowler-who-he-thought-was-an-Eradicon that he "knew [building the space bridge/mining] was a thankless job but to keep up the good work". That's not a pep talk any of the other Decepticons would be caught dead giving to a lowly "drone", I'm sure.

This isn't even going into all the hints of potential backstory we were given but were never built upon like Bulkhead's claim of "We have a history" - what history? Curious viewers want to know. Was Breakdown formerly a Wrecker? Did Breakdown kill Bulkhead's pre-Wheeljack BFF? Was Breakdown the schoolyard bully and stole Bulkhead's lunch money all the time? Even just "we have a history" and their epic rivalry is more of a background tease than any Decepticon who isn't Megatron got in the show.

So, yah, I have to say they are different from the other Decepticons. The writers just rushed through or didn't communicate well enough to show it. Not saying you have to agree with me, and you're welcome to disagree, but I had to say something.

[/opinion]

+1

[micromyni]

Seconding your opinion as it mirrors mine. Well put, anon.

[kamino_neko]

Every other non-Eradicon's interactions with one another were very tight and guarded, cementing the common fanon that the Decepticon faction is nothing but feral cats staring each other down from opposite corners and waiting for the other to make the first move to attack. Knock Out and Breakdown never came across that way with one another.

That's not a unique trait, though - Dreadwing and Skyquake were the same way (though we don't get to see it on-screen, due to Skyquake's death in his first appearance, it's quite clear from Dreadwing's actions when he eventually appeared) - and, unlike Knock Out (who happily goes along with Starscream's treason), they show actual loyalty to Megatron, so the car-cons are actually around the middle of the pack when it comes to loyalty to others.

All the Decepticons have different loyalties - Screamer and Airachnid only to themselves. Knock Out and Breakdown to each other. Dreadwing and Skyquake to each other and Megatron. Soundwave (so far as we know so far) only to Megatron. The Insecticons, once wrested from Airachnid's control, to Megatron and each other. The Vehicons...who knows? There's plenty of in-fighting, sure, but aside from Starscream and Airachnid, the idea that it's every bot for himself is not borne out by canon. (The one thing none of them seem to have any loyalty to is the Decepticons' nominal cause.)

And, yeah, Breakdown's interactions with the fake-Vehicon was interesting, but, it doesn't actually read to me the way you're reading it - quite the opposite in fact, if any meaning beyond 'silly gag' is going to be read into it. Fowler initiated the chit-chat - a strange Vehicon that Breakdown had never interacted with started making smalltalk, and he never really missed a beat, nor warned him to be careful who he chit-chats with. Either it's not that unusual for the Vehicons and the Names to interact on a friendly level (something we never see any of the Cons do at all - even Knock Out and Breakdown, or Dreadwing and Skyquake), or Breakdown doesn't really care of a Vehicon gets himself flogged for wasting time by being social with the Names, when Soundwave or Megatron decides to give them an order.

And, while it would be nice to see some of Breakdown and Bulkhead's interactions from the past, there's absolutely no reason to think there's more to it than 'Bulk was a Wrecker (one of the Autobots' more aggressive subfactions), and they're the Big Guys of their respective groups, so they've ended up fighting each other a lot'.

[micromyni]

I love this show, but GOD, YES. When I was sitting in shock after Breakdown's death, there was sadness, yes, but mostly I was thinking "What a WASTE of a potentially amazing character!" His interactions with Knockout and their almost symbiotic dynamic interested me from the start to the point where I started to think of them as one entity, Those Two Decepticons. Knockout's lack of a reaction surprised me, but I I eventually accepted it as in-character enough for me to cope with. But we're coming up on the third season, and we're getting no glimpse of backstory for either him or Knockout, and it's starting to grate on me.

Again, I love this show and I'm not going to stop watching it, but I'm starting to agree about this being the Show of Wasted Potential.

[(Anonymous)]

I've felt disappointed by that show's handling of pretty much every character and plot point that has even vaguely interested me. I'm going to watch the next season but TBH there's nothing about it that I'm actually looking forward to and I'm just assuming that they're going to kill the last two characters I give a fraction of a fuck about.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you.
I stopped watching after the first half of the second season when they literally put Airachnid in the fridge.
Also the fandom for this show on tumblr is fucking vile. Especially the Starscream and Knock Out fans are insanely gay fetishizing. It just sucked out the fun for me.

[micromyni]

Um...I stay off tumblr...so dare I ask for further explanation and elaboration on those fans?

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed, seems like they leave the important emotional things to the Autobots.
I mean come on. Showing at least a tiny reaction in the next episode wouldn't have been that hard.
There was another thing that had me all "Seriously writers?" -
Soundwave's absence when Airachnid made problems. Just not including him was a really lazy way of dealing with the fact, that it was shown in an earlier episode, that he is capable of dealing with her pretty quickly.

I still enjoy the show, the last season finale was pretty interesting and I really hope they don't waste too much potential with that scenario.