[ SECRET POST #2207 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2207 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Can't we just use warnings for squicky things instead of misusing the term "trigger"? As I understand it, a trigger is something that causes a really horrific PTSD-type reaction or flashback to a past event, right? I mean, I am terribly TERRIBLY upset by any discussion of animal abuse but it's not a trigger if I can avert my eyes and keep scrolling...

[(Anonymous)]

Well, actually I prefer warnings for both. But really, warnings for squicks probably serves just as well for people who are triggered, at least with the usual suspects.

Um. What I mean ... I have triggers. But they're ... weirdly specific. They often show up embedded in depictions of non-con, but also in depictions of brainwashing, of some medical procedures (particularly those involving drugging), and in some forms of societal presentation (things like master-slave most obviously, but also some fantasy societies with rigid structures). They're not guaranteed to come up in any of them, though. I could read my way through a non-con fic without being triggered, or I could find the one that just happens to brush past my triggers and devolve into hyperventilation and panic-attack and spiralling emotions.

So warnings for non-con, for brainwashing/drugging, for graphic depiction of medical procedures, all of which come under squick warnings, are helpful to me because those are the fics I know to tread carefully in, or avoid if I'm having one of those days where it's just not worth the risk. They mightn't trigger me, not unless the depiction trends a certain way or includes certain elements, but the warnings that are up because these are common squicks let me know where to be careful. The societal presentation one is one I usually just have to cross my fingers and hope, though it's not usually a problem in fics unless they're AU (and things like D/S AU and master/slave are usually noted).

They also serve as broad-spectrum trigger warnings. As in, if I wanted someone to warn for a trigger, I wouldn't ask them to warn for the specific mini-elements that trigger me, because that takes far too much explaining and probably more hyperventilating than anyone needs, and instead I'd ask them for the broad situation that needs warning for. Non-con, D/S, dubcon, drugging and graphic depictions of invasive procedures and/or violence are things that contain triggers for a lot of people, so they're worth warning for.

Um. My point being, squick warnings easily serve dual-purpose as trigger warnings for people who know (or are learning) what they need to watch out for. Many triggers on the more specific end are going to be hit-and-miss, but there are several broad situations that are likely to contain them, and those can be warned for as both squick and trigger. Yes?

And yes, asking for them as squick warnings might be less charged. On the other hand, I've heard some people say that unless you have a crippling reaction, that if you're 'just' squicked, you don't deserve a warning. I've also been squicked by a lot of things, and while it's not debilitating the way being triggered is, it's not pleasant to randomly stumble into something that distresses you, either. I would be quite happy with squick warnings on their own merits, too. Again, just for the broad-spectrum ones, general genre and situation indicators, just so you know what to risk on days when you will actually burst into tears when one more random thing jumps out at you.

[diet_poison]

This is a good comment. Thanks for taking the time to type all that out, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

Welcome, and thank you.

[(Anonymous)]

I think animal abuse is intensely triggering for a lot of people. When it's written, it may actually come across as more graphic than an actual photo of the abuse may. As this issue is intensely disturbing to many people, I do feel it should be included in trigger warnings. It's not something like "Trigger warning: Tissue paper."

I am deathly afraid of needles and will back-button when they're included in fiction without a warning, but it doesn't absolutely have to be included in trigger warnings. If there's a warning for heroin abuse in a fic, I will know to not even consider reading the fic, however.