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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-19 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2209 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2208 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-20 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Fic with OCs tend to be worse than the standard fare, therefore many people are wary of OCs. I'm sure the fans of those fics would defend it as you are.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-20 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually they're not "worse than standard fare" the bad ones get noticed more,kinda like a vocal minority. I've seen a lot of really shitty stories that dealt with canon characters only.

Like the stories in HP fandom where Harry leaves his wife to be with Hermione and it's okay because his wife is "fat and naggy" so her feelings mean nothing. Or a similar story where he goes back in time to erase his wife's assistance. Or the story where two guys who the author paired together decide to torture their 'slutty' female friend (There's a lot of fics like that). Stories where one pairing is viciously broken for another pairing between two canons.

Those are equally as bad or worse than just some story where Princess Serena Moonshine falls in tragic love with [hot canon male]. I understand what you're getting at but I feel like saying that OC fics are usually worse is a misinterpretation. They get noticed. Bad 'canon' fics don't get so much attention, and people just pass over them.

I understand that a foreign element in a fanfiction raises defenses , but the idea that creating one's own characters in a story should be a bad thing or indicative of a poor writer just because it's written within someone else's universe, is frankly stupid. Getting practice in creating your own characters is a good thing especially if you plan to move on to original fiction because, if you can't write good characters you can't write a good story. Even a bad plot can be saved by good characters but if you can't write good character a good plot won't make much difference. If you can only ever write characters that are pre-created for you, you won't get anywhere.

So while OCs can be annoying or badly written, as can anything else to claim that using them is inherently bad or makes a story 'bad' is incorrect. Just like assuming that first person is bad because it was used wrong or used by a lazy author is a logical fallacy. Some stories are bad. If we all stop using first person, or stop writing Original Characters, some stories will still be fucking bad. Sorry if I seem a little annoyed but I see this so much that it gets irritating. The whole "some bad authors write bad OCs so OCs are badfic" is an example of the 'Hitler Ate Sugar' argument fallacy (person who is bad/infamous did this thing so you shouldn't do it or you'll be like the bad/infamous person, basically).

There's a difference between being wary of a certain thing, and refusing to give it any credit no matter what because you're so stuck on your own preconceived notion that it is 'just plain bad'. It sounds like OP is doing the latter.