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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-20 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2210 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2210 ⌋

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[personal profile] yeahscience 2013-01-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well summed up. There's also the issue that a lot of people here feel that the end justifies the means... which leads to problems like abuse in schools, but also leads to the enormously and artificially high rate of false confessions and the rather inhumane interrogation system.

And of course, when it comes to domestic abuse and child abuse issues, they have almost no recourse at all.

Which is not to say I'm a fan of the police out here, because frankly, they can be total assholes (especially to us foreigners). But yeah, they are impeded by a lot of societal issues.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-01-21 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
And when you add "end justifies the means" to "and you mustn't question the validity of the end, or even if we truly achieved it, because that would be publicly embarrassing," you just get a lot of dubious "means."
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2013-01-21 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Y U P. Did you read the recent news about the poor kid who killed himself after being beaten and humiliated by his coach? That was what made me think of "abuse in schools." The coach continues to insist that his abusive methods were working, and people are backing him up because of this. They win, so it must be okay. On the police side, as long as there are convictions, the rest doesn't matter.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-01-21 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't read about Japanese schools anymore - too many "we make the Catholic Church look tough on child molesters and men who rape teenage girls," stories.