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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-22 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2212 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2212 ⌋

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Re: +100

(Anonymous) 2013-01-23 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a lot of posts praising Snape for how amazing a person you'd have to be to protect your enemy's son, and they always feel the need to add that they can't imagine James doing that. But... James risked his life to save SNAPE when he was fifteen. How can they not see James protecting an innocent kid, even if he/she was related to Snape, when he was a mature adult? When on top of that, James risked his life all the time for innocent people by working in the Order, when he didn't even know them. The hate gets really irrational with James; I've seen several people claim that his behaviour towards Snape is evidence of a lack of humanity and empathy and that he'd therefore be abusive towards Lily and Harry. It's so insane, I don't even know how to respond to those people.

James was arrogant, and he took his jerkish behaviour too far sometimes, but the way fandom treats him, you'd think he murdered people (though, considering how they worship people like Snape and Lucius Malfoy, apparently murder is more forgivable than bullying).

Re: +100

(Anonymous) 2013-01-23 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
though, considering how they worship people like Snape and Lucius Malfoy, apparently murder is more forgivable than bullying

You're probably being sarcastic here, but you know what? You're probably right on the mark.

Some -- not all, but I'd bet anything a good-sized portion -- of those people who defend Snape to that extent are probably a specific (and hopefully small) subset of bullying victims: the ones who happen to also be horrible people themselves, but never acknowledge it because in their minds, it's impossible to be both a victim and a bad person. A lot of victims are good people, of course, but there's no rule that states it's impossible for a bad person to get bullied.

They don't understand this though. They were bullied, which was unfair, therefore they are completely blameless for any horrible thing they do. And because they relate to Snape, Snape is also blameless for every horrible thing he does. Because he was bullied too, and "bullying victim" is synonymous with "innocent pure blameless saint" to them. It HAS to be, otherwise their own excuse for being a horrible person themselves falls apart.

They don't care about past mistakes. They don't care about proportionate retribution. They don't understand regret or personal growth. They don't comprehend personal responsibility. They don't understand that the world is bigger than their own pain. All they know is that they were bullied as kids -- and while no one deserves to be bullied, not every single kid who is bullied magically just so happen to be a good or innocent kid -- and in their minds, bullying IS worse than murder, because they remember the pain of being bullied, but are too sociopathic to understand that their pain is NOT so big and important than it would justify horrible actions on their part. They themselves probably feel that their bullies deserve to die, that that would be a justified punishment, even if their bullies were stupid, ignorant kids who have grown out of it.

And meanwhile, because they just so happened to be bullied as kids, nothing they do, no matter how horrible it is, will ever be unjustified in their minds. And by the same logic, neither will anything characters like Snape do.

Re: +100

(Anonymous) 2013-01-23 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
This is great insight, anon. I'd never really thought of it this way, and it does explain a lot. I was always confused at how some Snape fans would condemn James for his actions as a teen, but completely dismiss Snape's bullying as an adult (and as a teen, to be honest).

You should post this on tumblr.