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⌈ Secret Post #2216 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not the be-all and end-all of anything, and there are a lot of things about JK's books that make me headdesk, but I thought her mentioning that Dumbledore was gay was brilliant. Of all the fanon pairings to give authorial validation to, Dumbledore/Grindelwald was ... practically no one was taking it seriously before she weighed in on that, not because the subtext wasn't there, but because it was so unheard of for an author to make someone that important, that central gay. And we've had so many stories where the powerful old mentor is straight-by-default, but functionally asexual. Remember the shit fit some male LOTR fans pitched because the actor playing Gandalf was gay? And Dumbledore's sexuality is a minor part of who he is around a 12 to 17 year old boy he's mentoring, and it may be a minor part of his life after his thing with Grindelwald went so very wrong that his sister died in the crossfire. So I don't see what JK did as "hiding his gayness." To some extent, the fact that wizarding culture as she's written it is so free about what it's okay for a man to wear, what drinks he can order, how long his hair is, and how swishy he can be, that you really can't tell who's gay based on any of the sorts of cultural hints people use in our world is kind of extraordinary.

I realize a lot of people wanted Sirius or one of the younger characters to be visibly gay. (Though potentially as much for 'I ship it' reasons as because it would have plot-justification.) But I think having the most brilliant wizard in the series, the most stalwart defender of 'the good side,' and the headmaster of a flippin' school be gay is already a lot. I lived through the stupid flailing about scout masters needing to be straight. The fact that there isn't a peep about it in a British boarding school story, not from his supporters and not from his detractors, makes a pretty great on-the-ground case for it not being grounds for discrimination in JK's headcanon. AFAIK, no one has asked her open endedly if any of the other characters are gay. They've just asked about a few characters that fandom really, really wishes were. You could argue that assuming that, because she brought up Dumbledore and not a list of characters, he's the only gay in the whole story is kinda suspect too.

[fenm]

AFAIK, no one has asked her open endedly if any of the other characters are gay.

She could mention it without being asked.

[(Anonymous)]

She's never done that for ANYTHING though... She only reveals about characters when asked. Except for Pottermore, and so far she's only done descriptions on two or three characters.

[(Anonymous)]

But...why? Why would someone just randomly say, "OH AND SUCH AND SUCH CHARACTER IS GAY" out of the left field?

[(Anonymous)]

na

yeah, it was kind of shitty of her not to have announced the names of all the characters divided into "gay" and "not-gay" categories

I mean, was Professor Binns into dudes or not?? Will my Binns/Nearly Headless Nick ship ever be validated? I lie awake at night thinking about this shit, come on Rowling

[(Anonymous)]

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT ABOUT PEEVES/RED BARON???

OR BARON/NICK HATESEX

[fenm]

Yeah, cuz that's totally what I meant...

[(Anonymous)]

But that's where the sentiment leads. There was cause to mention Dumbledore's sexuality (the producers of the 6th film wanted him to mention a female love interest, and she stepped in and said, "no"); there is no cause to mention the sexuality of other characters. It would be rather odd, and somewhat contrived, for her to suddenly start waxing on about how so-and-so is gay.

[(Anonymous)]

This. If she started talking out of nowhere about how such-and-such character is gay, that would sound like "fishing for ally points".

[(Anonymous)]

The sad part is that I actually want fic of that now