[ SECRET POST #2216 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2216 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

(The Doctor is...very, very, very much not a Jesus figure in Old Who. In fact, he very closely fits the trickster archetype.)

Yes this! He is TOTALLY a trickster. This actually reminds me I remember once seeing a list of traits typical of archetypal tricksters and the Doctor fulfills basically every one of them...that was fun :)

Not that I completely disliked ALL of the Messianic undertones in the RTD era (it was really annoying when it got OTT, but at other times it was understandable and even insightful because he was, after all, the only one left), but yes, the fact that he is really not traditionally a Christ-figure, not even a deconstructed one, is important and it's a bit frustrating that nu!Who fans don't get that his messianic characterization is a departure from his standard trickster-y characterization. I mean, I can't exactly blame them, because it's not their responsibility to watch old episodes of a show that is marketed and designed to be watchable for a totally new audience, but it's frustrating nonetheless.

I have a lot of issues with Moffat, but I do love that the Doctor went back to being trickster-ish when he regenerated into Eleven, and that when he went over the edge, it was by stumbling over the line between "trickster" and "demon" rather than "Jesus" and "insane!Jesus". (It's the execution of how that line-crossing occurred in season 6, with that ridiculously convoluted storyline and the screwing around with Amy and Rory and River's characters, that pissed me off.)