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Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
When did this become a thing?

I've started seeing it around here recently, and it's dumb as hell.

Stahp,

plz, before it spreads

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I live in Argentina and it's quite common in not too formal contexts to write things with either @ or and x to eliminate the gender, and I'm quite fond of it. It doesn't only applies to the word Latin@, of course (the other day there seem to be people who thought that) but any word such as Tod@s or Amig@s.

Actually, my dad was telling me he uses when replying work mail and it surprised be a bit.

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Geez, I should have re-read. Sorry for butchering the English language.

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen it for Filipin@s, also in informal contexts. It tickled me the first time I saw it, and I ended up with a fondness for it, too (though I think it belongs in informal or "people you know" contexts only).

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
It IS dumb as hell. I first noticed it at Mark Watches, but I've seen it around at other places, too.

"But but but! It has an O and an A! IT'S GENDER NEUTRALIZING A LANGUAGE THAT ISN'T!!! THAT'S SO AWESOME!!"

What the fuck ever.
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Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-01-29 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. That looks really dumb? And how would you say that? It's one thing to have written abbreviations because most of the time, the full word is still used when speaking -- or sometimes if you're talking like OMG or whatever, people will use the letters.

But there's no pronunciation for Latin@s. Unless, and please god tell me no, someone is pushing for "latinoa" to become a standard? But then someone would probably bitch because the o is before the a.

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I keep wanting to read it as "Latin-at". I'm sure that can't be correct.
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Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-01-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe not correct, but it's how I'll be reading it now, too! :D

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. The only time I see @ used is in email addresses, so it means "at" to me. No help for it.

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a pronunciation, since it's supposed to be part of the written language only :/

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
i don't fucking knooow, I hate it. write it as a/o like a normal spanish-speaking person. it's a language not text-speak goddamn

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Used like that @ it's an informal version of the old "o/a" and in Spanish it's not only used with Latin@. I don't know why it became common in English but *shrugs* I don't really see the issue ow why it's dumb? Xie/ze, on the other hand...

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
not OP but my issue with it is why must we invent new words (Latin@, zie) when the old ones work perfectly well and everyone understands them without having to ask for an explanation?

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Because language never evolves and we never introduce new words into it?

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
+1!

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Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Except "latin@" it's not a new invented word.

Before, when doubting about someone's genre people would use instead the previously mentioned o/a (as in "latino/a"), now to use less characters they use the @.
And it's better than replacing it with an x (latinx), something people seem to be using in Spanish now to have "non gendered words".
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Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] fenm 2013-01-29 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I love when people who surf the Web and access the internet talk about language as if words and their meanings are set in stone and new words are never invented.

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Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I've been adopting it ever since I saw the professors of the Latin American Studies department at my college use it more and more.

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Educate yourself before you denigrate people's word usage (especially when it's on how people choose to name/identify themselves):

http://reclaimingthelatinatag.tumblr.com/post/35869235107/on-the-term-latin

Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2013-01-29 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
That's why I like the term Hispanic. It's already gender neutral and it doesn't hit my pet peeve radar (I don't get using Latin to refer to anything that's not the language).

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was under the impression that "Hispanic" was offensive now? I could be wrong, I just know that when I was in high school, the Spanish-speaking population there was generally referred to as Hispanic (assuming you weren't talking to somebody who just called them all Mexicans...), but now I hardly ever see that; it's always Latino/Latina.
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Re: Latin@s

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-01-29 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
LOL what? No
My husband is Latino/Hispanic/Mexican-American whatever term you want to call and he's ok with both "Latino" and "Hispanic" (but if you call him "Chicano" he'll punch you in the face)

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Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-01-29 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I was on the fence about it, but seeing all the butthurt from prescriptivists in this thread I'mma have to do my linguistic duty and and start using Latin@ from now on.

kekekekekekeke

Re: Latin@s

(Anonymous) 2013-01-29 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
La Real Academia Española will die clutching their dictionaries before they ever allow that abomination to enter official vocabulary, so at least we have that.
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Re: Latin@s

[personal profile] frankfurter 2013-01-29 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
iirc, @ has been used in Spain for -a/-o for quite some time?