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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-30 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2220 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2220 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sherlock, The Hobbit, Doctor Who]


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[Hotel Transylvania]


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[Skyfall]


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[Love Actually]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Small Wonder]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Magi]


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[Homestuck]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't really all that funny in the first place.

What chardmonster says about the aracial thing is true, but they neglected to mention that it's pretty much a copout since there are many subtle indicators in canon that Hussie thinks of them as white even though he didn't necessarily mean for them to be. It's an understandable thing, coming from a white person, but it's a little cagey that he didn't own up and admit it.

The problem came from Hussie making fun of it in a way that seemed kind of insulting to people with nonwhite headcanons for the kids, and those assholes who've never liked nonwhite kid depictions just ran with it and were incredibly nasty to the people with those headcanons. A number of popular POC kids artists quit the fandom over it. These assholes are the ones who made Hussie change it, as he said himself, despite the fact that they froth at the mouth that it's all the fault of "SJ sallies."

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Only in your head. It was a joke, obviously a joke, and also based off what the tricksters have looked like since the first fucking flash game. All tricksters have peach skin. ALL OF THEM. Yes, probably even the trolls.

Also Hussie can make them fucking blue and it would be fine. He created them. Get over yourself and your entailment. He owes you fucking nothing.

Your headcanon is not more important than whatever the creator says is canon. Hussie is not your bitch.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-01-31 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hey. Analyzing media isn't being entitled. It's analyzing what you're seeing.

HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE THIS I OWE YOU NOTHING is a fucking copout and Hussie himself hasn't said that. Just sad people on the internet.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I'm more talking about how certain parts of fandom seems to think Hussie owes them their headcanon. And if Hussie doesn't give them that headcanon then he's racist, sexist, etc, etc.

I'm really sick of seeing people whine about their precious headcanon's (and I mean the mostly white 15 yrs old and 20 something allies) being destroyed. Hussie literally owe us nothing. He gives us free entertainment.

Also criticism is not sending hate mail saying someone a racist asshole and should kill themselves. Which I'm pretty sure Hussie got, and I know several people that refused to get up in arms about the whole damn trickster shit got (and seriously all they did was refuse to comment).

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Also criticism is not sending hate mail saying someone a racist asshole and should kill themselves. Which I'm pretty sure Hussie got

Receipts, please.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-01-31 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
This doesn't need receipts (CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP WITH A BETTER WORD FOR THIS, EVERYBODY) because just about every major online artist seems to get them

It is like the downvote of nonreddit internet.

All YOU GET A DEATH THREAT and YOU GET A DEATH THREAT like we're on evil Oprah

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Can that last line be a GIF someday?

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha. Like I'm naming people for you to go harass.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-31 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
This is a stupid word and you should all feel stupid for using it.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Whoa there, anon, why so defensive?
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-01-31 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's anything wrong with Hussie changing the word. However, "I FEEL SO CAUCASIAN" doesn't really seem like even saying white is a good thing. You could even be saying the whiteness is making it creepier, like a cheesy after school special. Everyone's white and happy and brightly colored and nobody has real problems that aren't solved within an hour.

The idea of Dave the somewhat embarrassing white rapper is funny. There, I said it. White rap is often embarrassing.

Also--the issue is that this is a serial story that's taken several years to get through. Any acknowledgment and endorsement of fancanon is going to look cagey in that timeframe. It isn't a book he's eventually publishing.

I mean, it makes sense to be angry that none of the kids are nonwhite but that seems like tokenism; like some kind of Captain Planet team model of diversity. Isn't it better to say that the kids don't have a canon race and then include a variety of races in the official publications? If he went and retroactively gave the kids races or did that with the new ones he'd likely be criticized for getting it wrong. "How dare you make the kid with glasses asian" or "how dare you make the african kids recolors of the normal body type" when this is how he draws everyone including greyskinned aliens.

Leaving the fandom over shitty fans isn't exactly Hussie's fault. Are shitty bronies the fault of season one MLP writers?
Edited 2013-01-31 00:24 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I fail to see how 'cagey' it is that Hussie might think of the kids as white in his own personal headcanon, or why he should be required to 'own up and admit it' as if it were something to confess. Considering he's keeping his own personal headcanon to himself and allowing everyone else to maintain their own without condemning nor confirming anything, what's the fucking problem?

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Because he owes them their precious headcanons.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, right, sorry! Silly me. My mistake!

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, i saw so many people getting super fuckin smug over the caucasian joke. there were at least a couple posts i saw starting with "DEAR POC HOMESTUCK FANS"

it was nauseating.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm sure. So sure fucking sure.

Either that or you follow the most vile people (or fucking 14 and 15 years olds that haven't learned shit and think they're edgy, which you need to stop that's creepy)

Most people I saw were more "Oh great this is going to cause so much fucking wank" and bunkered down.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
yes, actually?

i was just looking at the tumblr tags.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-01-31 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Now hold on. Normally I'm on the other end of this jumping over the wankers, but that did happen. That's why Hussie has explicitly said he changed it, he saw it too and was all "ugh no."

Husise is a troll, but not that kind of troll.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
You do know that looking at the Homestuck tag is a thing you can do, right? When that update happened like 90% of it was that gif of "caucasian" and people going LOL THAT'LL TEACH THOSE SJWS. It wasn't exactly hard to find.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
So a bunch of little shit 15 year olds where little shit 15 year olds? This is the problem with the fandom being so fucking young.

Also maybe if some people weren't always going on about how if you don't agree with certain homestuck characters being certain colors that are not white you are racist racist racist.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel sorry for the parents of all these 15 year olds who had to give their money to the kickstarter.