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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-31 07:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2221 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2221 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure they're talking about Childings having said that around Christmas in an attack against some anon who offended Childings by having rich parents. The anon turned out to be here from the UK where classism and racism is very different to the US. They tweeted the thread and it blew up.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-01 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I must have missed that, but seriously what does that thread have to do with this thread?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT No idea. Someone called her a racist and that's the only reason I can think of for them to do it.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I found a link to that thread a bit lover in this thread... And I even commented on it, not Childings post, but the full thread thing. And I had no idea it got that bad.

I don't think I have said thread that many times in a sentence before...

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it got very ugly :( I think sometimes people forget that not everyone here is from the same country. I know I do even though I know for example that you're from Norway and Chard, Noodly, and Childings are from America. I'm still new here and am not around every day so I am not familiar with all of the accounts here, but I am at least intellectually aware that this is an international community. And still sometimes I forget to look at things from a perspective outside of my own country.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-01 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes people overreact.

Heck I forget that not everyone here is American and I am as you rightly said Norwegian...

But yeah a lot of discussions and misunderstandings here could have been avoided if people thought a bit more about the fact that not everyone on this community are from the same country.

Welcome to us Anon! I hope you will enjoy your stay and maybe even make an account so we can get to know you a bit better! Either way I hope you will have some fun here, because it isn't all wank. to be fair we do have a lot of trolls
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Being poor is a shitty as hell in the United States and when you grew up that way it's really difficult to understand class politics in other countries. Also, when people POST ANON and I don't know who they are and can't look at their profiles to tell where they are from, and they don't leave any context clues to let me know that they are not from the United States, and post in English, it's kind of hard for me to figure that out

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Being poor is shitty as hell everywhere. At least you're not a minority. America has more whites and women than any other race or gender.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
The United States doesn't even have socialized medicine like the UK, people legitimately die here from things like rotten teeth because they don't have the money to seek treatment

Also why should I feel good about not being a minority, is there something wrong with that? Are you seriously upset that white people are in the minority somewhere? I live in a state where I'm projected to be a minority here in about a decade and I DON'T CARE
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-01 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
So are you saying a bunch of rich kids in the UK got angry on twitter?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
No a bunch of poor white kids from the UK got very pissed off here.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't even talking shit about poor people? I was kind of doing... the exact fucking opposite?

Reading comprehension, what's that

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
From the perspective of a white person in a country where most of the rich people aren't white, your assumption rankled badly and was only made worse when it turned out that OP wasn't white and from my country. You made a sweeping generalization about both white people and rich people that isn't true. It might be true in your country or maybe only in what you have witnessed but it isn't a universal truth. Globally, most rich people aren't white.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-01 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god

You're one of those BNP people aren't you?

Explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

That might be mean of me Anon but frankly you sound like someone who complains about "pakis." Since when are most rich people in the fricking UK not white? Do you have anything to back that up?
Edited 2013-02-01 02:15 (UTC)
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god EWWW if this is the case and those are the people mad at me, I'm proud and stand by my statement
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-01 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, the BNP is really extreme. I'm hoping that's not the case and this is just some upset kid.

I understand being angry about your circumstances, Anon. The brit class system sucks. But don't say shit you can't back up.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused? It seems like anon is trying to say that the wealth in the UK is concentrated among non-white people and is that really true? I know there are a lot of economically depressed areas (moreso than a lot of Americans actually, I can thank my love of British post-punk music for that) but that's a far cry from saying that most white people in the UK are poor

Also the cognitive dissonance here is amazing. I come from the most economically depressed area of the United States (aside from the Appalachians), I mean, the American South is pretty notorious for being full of poverty and full of people of all races and ethnicities living in poverty, so it's sort of the same thing as some of these cities in the UK like Manchester where jobs and social services dried up in the 80s under conservative policies. It's like... the exact fucking same thing

In the end, I was only complaining about rich white people
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-01 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I highly doubt it is. But a lot of people are angry that immigrants come in (or their descendents) and get good jobs. They think it's overtaking native brits, basically.

Still waiting on a source, anon. You can ask twitter if you need to.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
No I am NOT BNP.

Here's the rich list for GB: http://features.thesundaytimes.co.uk/richlist/live/
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-01 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, that's behind a paywall (at least in the US). I did a search and get advertisements though. Can you copy paste or something?

I have to say that I don't think this is a credible source. I'm talking about social statistics, not a selective newspaper list.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I can't tell anything about a person who posts anon and doesn't give me any clues to let me know that they are not from the United States. Most people in this comm are from the US or Canada (which is different from the US but I don't think the majority of rich people there are not white... correct me if I am wrong) so it's a fair assumption to make when I can't pop over to a profile and see where someone is from

People on the internet freaking the fuck out because they think I'm a fucking Newtype and know everything about them when they make random statement whining about not getting money for Christmas (which is still really shitty and unacceptable, sorry)

Anyhow, where is this country where white people are mostly poor and oppressed? I genuinely want to know
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-01 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
The anon was bitching because they got a Christmas card from a relative (or their parents maybe) that GASP had no money in it

and I was basically like CRY MOAR "you sound white"

and now I'm racist

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-01 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Anon explained that money = love in their family. No money = no love.