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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-02 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2223 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-04 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I think the hypocrisy in The Doctor's Daughter was intentional, there was that moment when Jenny asked him about the war and said "then how am I different from you?" and he had no answer.

HOWEVER, thinking back on it, the reactions Donna and Jenny had to that hypocrisy were way too *mild*. It was as if he had offhandedly said something a bit hypocritical without really paying attention to what he was saying and they were just pointing it out for him. And it was really not just some little offhanded bit of hypocrisy. More like "wow, this guy is up to his eyeballs in denial". So I think there, the writers were really oblivious to the *severity* of how fucked-up his hypocrisy was, even though they were acknowledging the existence of the hypocrisy.

And that "a man who never would" scene at the end. That scene seemed to be framed as some kind of awesome righteous moment, but it kind of swept all Ten's inner struggles from throughout the episode under the rug.

I can't remember all the specific details of the Sontaran two-parter so I don't recall if UNIT got a moment of vindication or not, but Martha had that "I'm trying to make them better!" line, which seemed to be a pretty straight endorsement of Ten's opinions, even if they were aware he was a little OTT about expressing them. And you're right, I don't think Ten ever went "whoops sorry" or anything for being so up in his ass about guns. And after all that, he goes onto the Sontaran ship with the functional equivalent of a bomb, and seriously? That's okay but guns aren't? And I don't remember him or anyone else mentioning that disconnect either.

I guess I just kinda assumed the dissonance was intentional, but a more casual viewer probably wouldn't have any reason to think it was intentional because nothing I remember in the episodes really gave off that message, so that's not really good writing.