[ SECRET POST #2230 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2230 ⌋

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Notes:

Early because blizzard, not quite sure if power will last.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

#but can we just take a moment to appreciate how DEEP the bond between them is from this 5-second long gif from an overrated tv show #see the pain into this pretty white male actor's eyes #as he's gazing at this other pretty white male actor #he know #he know that it hurts to be separated from him for the next scene #just leave me here to die

or

#WOW YOU GUYS ARE SO HETEROSEXUAL #gays #homos #now kiss

[(Anonymous)]

If there's one thing I want to GO AWAY FOREVER it's this "look at those heterosexuals doing heterosexual things totally heterosexually, nothing gay here, tee hee" stuff. I can't even put into words how much it bothers me.

This will probably sound wanky, but I think straight fangirls sinking their teeth into the queerbait is almost as bad as queerbaiting itself. Just stop.

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't sound wanky. It's spot on, because that's exactly what makes queerbaiting a thing that keeps showing up.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. And I'm following a couple of generally okay girls who say shit like this for CANONLY STRAIGHT MALE CHARACTERS BONDING. #homogays #have gay sex already #gays

/sighs st Assassin's Creed fandom
/sighs at Supernatural fandom

[(Anonymous)]

AC fandom was so weird. I remember all of the Altair/Malak shipping and I was like "wuuh? I barely remember that guy". He was just generic assassin fellow, and yet there was SO

MUCH

SHIPPING

[(Anonymous)]

I find those pairings the weirdest. Their being popular is so counter-intuitive. I ship some rare pairs too and crackpairings too, but I don't really expect them to become huge phenomenons. I mean, do people in Teen Wolf fandom ship anything but Sterek? I don't even know if there are other characters! Well, I do know there's some canonically gay guy. But silly me, shipping straight guys >>>>>>> shipping actually gay guys.

[(Anonymous)]

same anon

Did I actually write "phenomenons"?! Oh god. Sorry.

[lunabee34]

It's something like a phenomenon.

LOL

/LL Cool J references

[othellia]

I mean, do people in Teen Wolf fandom ship anything but Sterek? I don't even know if there are other characters!

Forget shipping, they don't even talk about anything that's not Sterek. It took me months to realize that they weren't even the main character(s).

[(Anonymous)]

While I will defend Altair/Malik to the end, I get why people could have overlooked him (until the end where he is fairly important?). I have a soft spot for side characters who snark at the arrogant main characters, so I actually shipped them quite a bit. But like everywhere else, there is a lot of badfic and a few awesome fics. But I have to say: I'm not active in tumblr fandoms, but from what I've seen in other places, the AC fandom is actually a fairly open minded place?

[(Anonymous)]

I hear you man, I shipped Altair and Malik before I even looked at the fandoms.
then I stopped because the fanon characterization rubbed me the wrong way.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yes, I feel you - There have been so many fanon traits I was very uncomfortable with...

[(Anonymous)]

Yes its only icky fangirls. Nobody ever exploits cf querrbaiting in anime and calls them harass lesbians even though they're straight.

[dreemyweird]

<3 You do it really well

[(Anonymous)]

Helloooo everything written about Stiles/Derek, EVER.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's something that happens with both sides:

One side gets annoyed that *fandom* doesn't let friends just be friends without most of the discussion being about shipping them. If you love their friendship, it's annoying that other people insist on interpreting it as romance. It's also true that there's not a lot of media that focuses on close friendships in general.

The other side gets annoyed that the fiction itself doesn't ever have gay romances, when pretty much every female/male relationship always ends in romance or has a touch of romantic feelings in it.

Part of the problem is there's just little of either. There's not a lot of media that focuses on female friendships, and most media about guys is very careful to make it seem TOTALLY PLATONIC.

Both sides feel like they're not getting enough of what they want, and they often feel at odds with eachother.

[truxillogical]

TBH, I was Side 1 for a good long while, which is why I wasn't even a slash fan until after college (and why my first slash ship was between a canonically gay character and his ambiguous sometimes-buddy that he was literally handcuffed to for several weeks). It especially drove me nuts in the LotR fandom with Sam/Frodo, because all I could think was, "What is wrong with you all? Don't you have a Deep Friendship like that? Haven't you at least seen one? Can't people be friends without it being romantic?!"

And at some point I realized that's not really it at all.

I mean, for some fans, it kinda is. Some fans will always be the crazy, wide-eyed ones who insist that everything is canon and no, it's really gonna happen, no matter how implausible it is. But for most fans, I think, even the ones who post pictures of simple Male Bonding Moments (or Female Bonding Moments, if we're talking Once Upon A Time, because wowzer, Red and Snow, what.) along with tags like "TOTALLY IN LOOOOVE!!!!"...well, I think they mean that about as much as they mean, "I HAVE FEELS!!!!"

Which is to say, yes, they mean it, but with a bit of tongue-in-cheek and mostly for the fun.

What I guess I kind of mean is that shipping two same-sex characters because they're buddies doesn't necessarily mean that fans don't also appreciate their canon, platonic buddy-hood. They may like the slashing more for, say, fanart or fic purposes, but that's usually a guilty pleasure anyway. I've read plenty of slash fic for characters that I also like as platonic BFFs. You can appreciate both. It's really not all that different than being able to ship multiple ships with a given character.


That said, "teh gayz moments" will always get more play for pretty much the same reason that FEELS gets a lot of play--it's fun and silly to play up, and fandom is insular, and with the internet, it kind of just feeds off of itself, and...wacky fun?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm talking about a specific, sizable subset of people who do very much want them to be about romance.

In fact, if we're talking OUAT, Mulan and Aurora would be a good example. Aurora is canonically in love with Phillip, and Mulan is heavily hinted to be in love with him, but there's definitely a powerful set of fans who believe it's romantic. I think the difference is the people who think it SHOULD be love, and the people who wish it were. The former is the one that tends to butt heads with Team 1 the most, and the latter Team 1 gets annoyed with because it usually swamps over any talk about the friendship side. Rather, the friendship side is seen as a special flavoring for the romance, which is what they're really interested in.

I'm not denying there's a group of people who love the friendship and the idea of them being together romantically without necessarily believing that a good author in a perfect world would definitely have written them together, or something.