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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-10 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2231 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2231 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This is how I feel about pretty much all Moffatt-related bits in Doctor Who.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's...really specific. Also, not exactly what the OP was talking about. She's apparently saying that NOTHING in her fandoms ever affects her, not that certain parts of it don't affect her O.O Just...what.

I can sort of understand why someone would stick to a fandom even if huge parts of it don't affect them, but if nothing in fandom affects them? Why is the OP even IN fandom if nothing affects her? IDGI.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well now, this comment didn't come straight out of the blue at all.

But more to the point of the secret, I can understand someone not being affected by parts of a fandom that everyone else is affected by. Not being affected by "any of it" on the other hand, is what I don't get.
intrigueing: (buffy eww)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-02-10 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why are you in fandom?

No, I don't mean it rhetorically. I mean, this secret makes no sense. If you're not affected by any of it, what possible reason do you have to participate in your fandoms at all? How did you even get into fandom in the first place if you're never affected by anything? What motivation do you have to be in fandom if that's your only reaction? I don't get how someone with that view can exist in fandom. It's like an anti-gun activist being in the NRA. Just...why?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OP only said they didn't feel affected by the parts that most people said were "sad", not that they had no emotional response to anything in the source material. They could like it for the comedy, or the romances, or the action scenes. Or maybe the parts that made them cry were parts that weren't really discussed as much.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
^^This. The sad stuff doesn't bug me, but I still love the romances and the happy moments and the scary moments.

Plus, it's sort of like...research, I guess? I'm planning on being a writer, and participating in fandoms comprised of my target audience helps me see how people tick.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-02-10 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I get it now. Your wording in your secret is a bit misleading though.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) - 2013-02-10 22:14 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I can do better

Oh sweetums. No, you couldn't :)

Now, maybe you could Better Than Canon fix-fic for it. Maybe you could have made it better if you had had the chance to provide constructive criticism and fix the mistakes and stupid moments, and scrap the ill-advised bits, and strengthen the bits that don't quite live up to their potential, if you had been there to edit the stuff that the writers who actually went through the exhaustive work to come up with and write down all those ideas and all that plotting, but "do better"? On your own? LOL. Don't make me laugh. :D

Writing source material is a fuckload of a lot harder than you think.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing source material is a fuckload of a lot harder than you think.

As someone who's been writing for more than twelve years and has watched people sob over their original stories and characters, I understand that.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
^This is OP, by the way.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to work harder on your condescension, there. And your flat-out ignorance, as you now nothing whatever about the OP's writing.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
...yet you put "apologies in advance" at the end of your secret. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Aplogizing prior for the wank that may happen in the comments, I assume. This sort of secret is bound to receive combative remark.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you couldn't.

It's understandable why you would think that, though. My own writings make me cry my eyes out because I'm immersed in them the way I don't get immersed in the works of others. But that only means it affects me better than other authors do. I seriously doubt either I or you could "do better" in the eyes of the fans of whatever-source-material. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're specifically talking about the sad bits, and the sad bits as written don't make you sad, then yes, you probably could do a better job at making yourself sad. The question is whether it would also make other people sad.
intrigueing: (piper and trickster have no taste)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-02-10 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, this. Broad audience appeal is a pain and a half when you know you need ratings/readership/ticket sales in order to keep going or not wind up unemployed or with zero budget and a bad reputation.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
This here. Whenever somebody says "I can do better", they usually mean "I can make this more appealing to me, personally." Let's face it, most people can. But, as you pointed out, just because you think it's better doesn't mean others will.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Most people can do better than something that isn't working for them at all, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
But instead of doing better, you're sitting there, wasting your time making fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
To anyone who says "I could do better than [insert creative force behind the franchise of your choice here]" Well... I say, put up or shut up.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2013-02-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
If you can, you should. Write a fic and wrench the everloving guts out of your fandom.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Then go and 'do better.' Put your money where your mouth is yadda yadda

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
then do better you lazy ass.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. Prove it.

(I mean, you haven't specified any of your fandoms so it's entirely possible these are just mediocre works considered dramatic and heart-wrenching by all the fans due to, let's say, their young age.)