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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-10 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2231 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2231 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
The issue of that aesop was that they were presenting Femme Fatale as being utterly wrong that injustice existed. The PPG were wrong to see anything as sexism, because in Townsville, there is no sexism.

But sexism is real, and it was a horrible message to give. I can see what they were going for, and that's a good message, but the fact that it ended up being 'there's no such thing as sexism, why are you being so mean?' is the big issue with that episode.

I don't think the episode was horrible, and if they had cut out pieces here and there you wouldn't have noticed that issue. But jeez, that opening monologue "In Townsville, everything is fair and equal nothing is ever wrong NO SEXISM STOP ASKING ABOUT IT".

I kind of get why they didn't want to bring up sexism, as that might have made the episode too complex, but then we're left with the idea that sexism is no longer real. A lot of the episode is very good and I'll tell you that when I watched it as a little girl, I did take away the right message. But maybe another one didn't. But the nature of a cartoon--to make everything simple and kind of bigger than life--makes it difficult to discuss a lesson that requires you to teach about feminism, sexism, and, uh, "bad" feminism. If you don't teach the audience what all three is, the last one isn't going to work.

SA as the one you replied to.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
All messages are open to interpretation. Such is the nature of communication. But the one you took away requires a lot of very deliberate overanalysis and misreading of the episode that no child would do. It's kind of similar to some other examples of supposed 'twisted lessons' I've seen read into a number of shows.

Re: SA as the one you replied to.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-11 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't. The episode explicitly lays out in the beginning Townsville is completely equal with no sexism.

Not to mention the writer admitted very graciously she did the episode poorly and is embarrassed by it.
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Re: SA as the one you replied to.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-11 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No, she's embarassed by schmucks like you that overthink a children's moral.