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⌈ Secret Post #2232 ⌋

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

I can't stand the Health at Every Size movement. Yes, it's possible to be healthy and fit if you are overweight, but if you can't climb the stairs to the second floor without getting winded or if your joints start aching after walking for a few blocks, you are neither healthy nor fit.

For many people it's impossible to be healthy while severely overweight, and trying to convince them otherwise is doing them a huge disservice.

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[(Anonymous)]

Honestly... I kinda agree.

I've seen people who are both overweight and underweight, and there is a point for them where it's detrimental to their health.

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[thinkatory]

That's why it's called Health At Every Size. Because you're supposed to be healthy. No one credible says that you should carry on life being unhealthily over- or underweight.

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[(Anonymous)]

The problem is that some people get completely distorted ideas on what actually is healthy. I've seen people arguing that sleep apnea is nothing to worry about and they are completely healthy even if they have to use a breathing device.

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[(Anonymous)]

I get what you're saying here, but I just hope it doesn't carry into thinking that there's something morally wrong with being fat. Being fat doesn't make you a lesser person. And even if you're really, really fat, to the point where it's having negative effects on your health, you're still no less worthy than anyone else. We shouldn't lie and say that that's healthy, but health is not a moral imperative.

And if you're wondering about my size, for context, I am fat, but on the much smaller end of fat (a bit under 200lbs.)

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[(Anonymous)]

If you have kids, being a normal weight is a moral imperative. Nutritional abuse should be grounds prosecution.

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[chardmonster]

Okay kid.

I'm sure exercise has nothing to do with it. Nope. That donut you had at work is morally harming your child.

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree that being TOO fat is bad, but I think the Health at Every Size people are probably a reaction to the kind of people who pretend to be concerned about someone's health when they just want to make fun of someone for being overweight.

I'm overweight, but not extremely so. Random adults on the street have yelled insults at me for being fat, but I can climb stairs, walk for miles without feeling winded or achy, do all sorts of active things, and am have no major health problems compared to a lot of people I know. So I feel like people's objections, in my case, are purely aesthetic, but some of them would still likely go on about how they need to point out my unhealthiness through obnoxious mocking/shaming if I told them that.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh hey. You've got company. I'm fat and get yelled at by random people on the street for it. I walk everywhere, have been a vegetarian most of my life, don't smoke tobacco or weed, don't do drugs, don't drink alcohol, coffee, or soda, eat mostly fruit and veggies and whole grains, don't get sick much--but I'm fat. The fact that I've walked the tread off big stompy hiking boots in two weeks before doesn't matter, because I'm five feet tall and a size eighteen. I like to eat, ngl--I don't do portion control. But I'm just as happy eating a big bowl of raw kale salad and some brown rice with marinated tofu as I am with a bowl of ice cream, and I eat kale way more often than ice cream. And I'm lucky I'm well off enough that I can afford to eat what I do, and live where fresh veggies and fruit are easy and cheap to come by, and the weather is nice most of the year and I don't have chronic pain issues, so walking is fun. Not everyone has those luxuries.

I don't have a problem with anyone else's weight, whether they look like a breeze could blow them away or as if a hurricane could blow right over them and they wouldn't budge, but I worry sometimes about size being the only criterion for health. I'd worry about an average-sized person who couldn't carry a couple bags of groceries a couple blocks before worrying about myself.

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[(Anonymous)]

Weight loss isn't a treatment for health problems, and it's extremely hard to maintain for more than a year or so. Things like exercise, nutrition, and appropriate medication have been shown to improve peoples' health regardless of their weight, and are a lot more doable than trying to make people smaller. I don't see the problem.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oi, this. Being overweight, while it can make itself a problem, is more often symptomatic of other problems. Trying to "fix" the weight alone often does more harm than good, so it's a lot more affective to treat the underlying problems and getting a person to their personal healthy body, whatever size that may be.

That said - if you compared the veggie anon above with me physically, people would probably say I'm the healthier one. And they'd be wrong. Just because I'm an average size doesn't mean I don't have health problems - and I'm probably lighter now than I was when I was an athlete and healthy simply because muscle weighs more than fat. In the same vein, just because somebody is overweight doesn't mean they actually have any problems at all!