[ SECRET POST #2233 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2233 ⌋

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Comments

[childings.livejournal.com]

This is one of the only episodes of Doctor Who I've ever seen and I hated it

I have experienced clinical depression IRL too, I don't know what it was, I guess it felt forced or something? "Whooo everyone is going to remember you and your art in the future... but psst only because you killed yourself, whoops, sorry we left that part out"

[(Anonymous)]

The handling of Van Gogh's mental issues is part of what bothered me in that episode, I realize it's a tv show and they are only going to touch on it so much, but it just felt like cheap ploys to get emotion out of the audience.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Yeah, they kind of made it seem like depression is just a lot of moping around and being sad and that someone's mood can be affected that greatly, just by showing them how other people appreciate them or their work. It doesn't really work that way.

[(Anonymous)]

NA who enjoyed the episode

I thought the whole point was that showing him his work wasn't actually going to change the end result? Just that for a little while it made him feel better about himself/his work.

[(Anonymous)]

completely da

that totally misses the point tho (and is why it was a cheap ploy); "Just that for a little while it made him feel better" wouldn't actually work.

LOL my Moffatt problems let me show u them

[(Anonymous)]

That really depends on the patient.

The whole "I'm well again, this feel great!" "Ugh." pattern that replays eternally for some patients is incredibly tiring, and just because it doesn't ring true with you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

Even while I'm in the pitfalls of depression I still have other feelings on top of that.

I can feel happy for just a little while. I don't see it as missing the point, just another part of a complicated illness.

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck you.

Seriously.

As someone who is depressed, if someone shows me that something I do is worthwhile, I feel better. Because I'm depressed because I think I'm wasting my life. So yeah, fuck you, quit projecting and thinking there's only one way to feel depressed and go suck thirty million raw eggs and get fucking food poisoning.

[sarnath]

depression is just a lot of moping around and being sad and that someone's mood can be affected that greatly, just by showing them how other people appreciate them or their work.

Actually, this is completely the opposite to what the episode was saying. I have no idea how it could be interpreted this way, honestly.

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

Well see I thought it was good handling, because even while he was depressed he had his good days with Amy and the Doctor, but obviously just being told people appreciative you doesn't cure it because he still killed himself in the end.

[tree_and_leaf]

I don't normally bang on about Doctor Who being primarily a kids' show, but I was struck quite forcibly when I watched it that this is was a fantastic way to deal, gently and without going all Very Special Episode about it, about loving someone with severe depression. When I was growing up my dad had a serious and long-lasting depressive episode - it went on for years. We were lucky, and he got better, but it was a very difficult thing for a kid to get their head around, and younger!me would have benefited quite a lot from seeing the episode, because it manages to show both that love and kindness and good things sometimes aren't enough to cure it, but also that that doesn't mean that the love and kindness and good things were meaningless.