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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-12 06:38 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Fun fact: Most SJW blogs like feministdisney and stfusexists, sexistfacebookdudes etc I've seen are by white girls.

Most Anti-SJ blogs like tinyblacktears, brown-power, wtfsocialjustice, dumbthingsocialjusticeblogssay, shitsocialjusticealliessay etc I've seen are by POC.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hey is genderbitch white?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yes and a redhead.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
lemme add

http://languagecorruptsthought.tumblr.com/post/39028901416/can-we-get-a-legit-list-of-blogs-who-are-anti-social

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I admit to not reading those blogs, but going by titles I see no reason why there would be a problem with a white girl running a feminist blog.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
The content is not limited to feminism at all, they go on about how terrible white people like themselves are are and how pure and beyond evil poc are (and when they are bad it's because of the white man)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
plus it's always baffling that the girls screaming loudest about ~intersectionality in feminism~ and how feminists ignore WoC are always 100% white

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is not true at all.

Most people talking about intersectionality, whether they be people actually worth listening to or ranting misogynists like riley, are not white.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly my experience.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
have you never encountered winterfox
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-13 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
lucky you

not only is she ridiculously invested in defending a song of ice and fire while heavily hating on anything written by women for being problematic (and it's not just white women she does this two, she is akin to riley in that she will happily paint anyone as white if she doesn't like them even if they're a person of color), she is also really disgusted by women's sex drives and continuously paints every slash fan as a gross slutty horny straight women even when repeatedly told how offensive this is.

and there are lots of other things she does but tbh it's been awhile since i've interacted with her and those are just the main points i recall.

anyway, all this to say she is among the more obnoxious of sjws and she's not american or white, which are the two stereotypes that i see of 'obnoxious sjws' OH. oh i forgot she also hates american people of color for being imperialists or something, idek i just remember she had a beef with anyone calling themselves asian if they didn't actually live in asia.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-13 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear. o.O Well I'm glad I haven't met her, then.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
she is also, iirc, a fan of neo_prodigy - who advocates that slash fangirls should be strangled with pianowire, and also constantly mansplains about everything. he's gay, but feels it's important to tell people that if he were inclined to have a girlfriend he would forcefeed her birth control pills and basically be a controlling abuser, and frames this as a good thing. according to him the ultimate evil in the world is straight white women.

so uh, this characterization of sjws all being straight white women is completely incorrect. the huge assholes that powertrip on being more sj than thou aren't all just priviliged women studies-taking white girls, there are men and women of color involved, and their main hatred is directed at those very lily-white gender studies girls that everyone else sees as being representative of sjws.

which isn't to say white girls are being oppressed by those evil people of color or anything ridiculous like that, i'm just saying there is a huge strain of misogyny about sjws, both from sjws themselves and from those criticizing them. there's this idea that we can just dismiss everything sjws talk about because it's just white girls who don't know anything - that's harmful, bc it completely mischaracterizes everyone involved with the movement as white, and also takes away from the very real problems that a lot of sj-oriented people are talking about.

there's also this idea that the only people being hateful and detrimental to the cause are, again, the white girls that don't know anything. and finally, there is the idea among some sjws (i use sjws to distinguish that i am talking about the overthetop hateful jerks like neo_prodigy and winterfox and genderbitch and riley, all of whom are mentioned in this thread) that the real enemy and main oppressors to be dealt with are not straight, cis, white men, but straight, cis, white women. obviously, yes straight cis white women have more privilege than any woman who is not straight, white or cis, and they are certainly a part of the oppression of minority groups, but so much of the anger among the really virulent and hateful sjws seems to be directed primarily at women.

tl;dr there is this huge idea on both sides of the sjw debate that the biggest problem with anything and everything to do with sjws is white girls, which is just not fucking true. yeah, there are shitty straight cis white girl sjws but they're not the only ones out there, and claiming that every single issue raised by any sjw ever - even completely legitimate ones - is just 'white humanities-studying college girls suffering from white guilt' is a completely simplistic dismissal and detrimental to all aspects of sj.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-13 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
o___O

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
What's your point? I think it's good that white women advocate for equality for ALL skin colors because there is a shit ton of other white "feminist" women who will gladly spit on the issues of women of color.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
crackerhell.tumblr.com

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
See also -> Abhortion (though she's biracial, which means she "doesn't count" according to SJW because she is "white passing".

...Even though she lives in China.

What's funniest to me is that Redd (mod of "About Male Privilege") was always saying how she got treated badly, and in a racist manner due to her being a latina in America.

...She's just as white-passing as Abhortion, but unlike Abhortion, Redd lives in a white-dominant society.

Also: Transcriptgate on talk-to-the-hands's tumblr. He's an upright guy.
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[personal profile] harp 2013-02-13 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
That's because those Social Justice Stains make us feel more awkward, unwelcomed, and freakish than anything. Regular, average people are like "oh, you're Indian and Trans? Ok, cool, next subject."

Whereas the SJ-BAWWWers make a huge song and dance about it. "Don't worry! I still love you even though you're a freak! I won't let anyone call you a freak! Hey, what that person just said could possibly be taken as a slur if you take out some letters and add in other letters and say it backwards. He hates you! Well I hate him because he hates you!" I don't like Social Justice BAWers because I really do not like being reminded 24 hours a day of my dark skin, and I don't like it when innocent things that I find enjoyable are picked apart and twisted so that all I can see them as are slurs.

I have this one IRL friend, a real piece of work, who tried to ruin The Princess and the Frog for me by telling me how "racist" it was. I really wish I'd said to her "Look, I'm sorry that many years ago people who look like you were horrible to people who look like me, but find some other way to alleviate your white guilt, please and thanks." Her white guilt is off the friggin charts, but she deals with it by clinging to her other oppression cards doggedly.It's gotten to the point where I want to troll her, but I never have the nerve.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I especially love it when SJWs keep going on and on about how cis white people are unable to treat a minority the same as everyone else even if they think they do.
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[personal profile] harp 2013-02-13 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why it's easier to make it a non-issue by not bringing it up- which is my tactic most of the time, even in real life (as far as the gender thing goes; not much I can do about the skin color).

Now what's reeeally hilarious about skin color right now is that I've been finding comfort about my dark skin in ways that the SJW-Dickweeds would have a conniption fit over- the characters Zwarte Pete and Mr. Popo. Learning about their origins as magical creatures has been a huge band-aid on more than twenty years of being disgusted by my skin color. But I wouldn't dare say that to an SJW because those two are a huge source of shame to them. And therein lies the essence of the problem with some of those SJW's. They're only doing it to boost their own egos, not for anyone else's good.