[ SECRET POST #2233 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2233 ⌋

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+ like a million

[(Anonymous)]

Remus is just kind of a negative, down-at-the-mouth sort of a person, I think. Maybe not a whiner but definitely a pessimist, the kind of person who almost makes an art out of being quietly miserable. Perhaps justifiably, but it's definitely something I perceive as an element of his character.

In addition, I think the presentation of the relationship in canon suffers from the fact that it's not the main focus of the story.

Re: + like a million

[(Anonymous)]

I think the presentation of the relationship in canon suffers from the fact that JKR sucks monkey balls at writing relationships.

And since when did "pragmatic" become "pessimistic"? The Ministry was tightening its restrictions on werewolves and he couldn't get a job anywhere, and only got the DADA job because he knew Dumbledore and there was a spot open. His life is absolutely miserable, so fuck you for calling him a Debbie Downer just because he doesn't have rainbows and unicorns shooting out his ass.

Re: + like a million

[(Anonymous)]

I think the presentation of the relationship in canon suffers from the fact that JKR sucks monkey balls at writing relationships.

Not disagreeing, not disagreeing.

And since when did "pragmatic" become "pessimistic"? The Ministry was tightening its restrictions on werewolves and he couldn't get a job anywhere, and only got the DADA job because he knew Dumbledore and there was a spot open. His life is absolutely miserable, so fuck you for calling him a Debbie Downer just because he doesn't have rainbows and unicorns shooting out his ass.

Like I said, "perhaps justifiably".

And I should clarify - I'm definitely not trying to judge him for being that way, there's nothing morally wrong with it and he's still a good person, I'm not calling him out. It's just the way that I perceive his general cast of character. And I think it kind of extends not just to his employment prospects but to most of the things in his life - his romantic relationships in particular.

I'm not saying that he needs to be super pepped-up and nothing but smiles, or anything like that. But the character's general outlook as presented in the series, just seems pretty consistently negative to me, not just as a reaction to circumstances but as a cast of mind. And, again, he has had a pretty terrible life, which surely shaped that.

Re: + like a million

[dreemyweird]

I agree.

Re: + like a million

[(Anonymous)]

See, I'm not seeing where this "pessimism" actually comes up - except when he's trying to avoid dating Tonks. He's very attuned to the reality of the situation, and the reality just isn't good. That doesn't make him a pessimist, it makes him a realist, a pragmatist. The fact that his only true pessimism comes up when people are trying to get him to hook up with Tonks says more about how he feels about the idea of the relationship itself (it's a bad one) than his overarching character.

That said, grumpy or not, JKR has full control over her characters and she could have done a lot more to imply his happiness with the relationship than she did - which was not at all. She gave us absolutely nothing to show that his doubts and concerns were unfounded. Tonks was absolutely miserable without him and everybody wanted him to be with her, completely ignoring his objections - this was a great many people who would be happy if he did this, and so he did, without ever conceding that it might make him happy, too. His only joy is that everyone else got what they wanted, and when that wore off, there was nothing. The relationship wasn't improving anything about his life. He's not happy, and we're never shown that he might be.