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Last night's episode was awesome in so many ways, but there's one thing that's sort of bugging me. Is it just me or is Watson starting to behave more like Holmes?

How so?

I can't think of a way to explain it... something about their interactions in the last few minutes? I was getting the feeling that they're starting to rub off on each other in a way. Or maybe I'm just imagining it.

She's starting to deduce things which I think is great, but yeah, when Holmes mentioned teaching her I hope it didn't mean be exactly like him. But so far she doesn't take any of his crap so I'm not worried.

Also last night's ep made me officially a Bell fan. His acting was on point.

Yeah, Bell was fantastic. I love how much this show is developing ALL of the characters and not just Sherlock and Joan. I wish more shows would do this.

She's starting to deduce things which I think is great

She's actually been doing that all along. Even in the pilot see her noticing things, and she's actually instrumental in solving the case.

Oh yeah, you're right now that I think about it. I'm afraid I don't remember these things very well which is why I'd make an awful detective. XD

Yes. Like she started off sitting in chairs, even if they were folding chairs to watch baseball. But Holmes has a habit of apparently detesting anything chair-like (Though sofas are okay because they can double as beds)and this has rubbed off on her. Now when she's working on a case, you can often see her sitting on the floor, like Holmes, with all the files spread out.

Mind you, it has worked the other way too. Holmes looks less sloppy and more put together since Watson has moved in.

They are starting to be almost sibling like.

I think that's the idea - that she's actually learning how to be a detective from him (same as he is 'better' when he's with her). And I think that's awesome, because it means their relationship is becoming more equal. She's not ever going to be as good as Holmes, because he's Holmes, but it makes sense that she'd pick up a few things from him, especially since he's kind of officially apprentice-shipping her now.

I think it's awesome too! I guess I'm a little worried because I don't want her to turn into a clone of him. Which is highly unlikely (especially since the show's done a great job with character development so far), but I don't have much faith in TV writers.

I would really not want that to happen either - but I'm hoping the writers are going to handle it well, since I've been very pleasantly surprised with the writing in Elementary so far, and especially Joan's character development. Fingers crossed!

The last episode was fantastic. I hope Bell's brother comes back in a later episode again, I want to see more of those two.

The only thing that kind of bothered me is that Joan hit Sherlock in the face with the basketball. I don't know, hitting someone square in the face is a rather mean thing to do, imo. And she waited until he turned around, too. :/

But all in all, yes. I'm loving this show more and more with every episode <3

*blink* ... I love how you're focused on her hitting him in the face after all the shit he did to her earlier in the episode.

Well, for one, it's the very last scene, so of course that stays more with me than the rest. And it was that one tiny little thing that bothered me in an otherwise excellent episode.

And for the other, Sherlock's stunt in the beginning was obviously way out of line and treated as such during the rest of the episode, whereas the last scene was treated as his comeuppance. And while I definitely think he had something coming (I was cheering for Joan when she knocked over his wall of locks and when she was picking up the basketball at the end) a deliberate hit to the face has, to me, some really shitty connotations.

Joan's supposed to be the more mature and put together of the two; I can believe that Sherlock could justify and pull a stunt like in the beginning, because let's face it, he's not the most well-adjusted Brit out there, but, given what I associate with it, I can't see Joan deliberately aiming at Sherlock's head in retaliation, especially after the scene in Bell's apartment.

If she'd hit him anywhere else, even the back of his head, I would have cheered for her, but hitting his face at this particular time (it would have worked for me had it been before Sherlock asked her to stay as his partner) doesn't jibe with her character, imo.

Which is all a very long and elaborate way of saying that I have issues with people getting hit in the face, especially by friends or people they trust.

That's ridiculous. He basically attacked her twice without any warning (don't forget the ball (or was it a lemon) to the back. She at least let him see that she was holding a ball and he saw it coming. Big fucking difference.

That's nice that you think it's ridiculous? I'm not sure what you want from me; I explained why the end bothered me slightly.

I never said that that was equal (or worse) to what Sherlock did. Of fucking course the attack in the beginning was terrible and worse than getting a basketball to the face (thinking back, I probably didn't mention that yet excplicitly, but on the other hand, I didn't think I had to say it. The guy pretended to be a burglar/killer a week after Joan was taken hostage in her home, of course that's completely out of line), but that doesn't change the fact that, to me, someone you trust deliberately hitting you in the face has unfortunate implications. I never said that Sherlock's actions and Joan's "revenge" were the same thing or on the same level.

Had Sherlock hit Joan in the face with the (tennis, I think it was) ball I'd have the same kneejerk reaction of DNW.

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