[ SECRET POST #2236 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2236 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Inda series]


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[Les Miserables and Discworld]

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03.
[Three Kingdoms 2010, Legend of Chu and Han]


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05.
[DBSK]


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06.
[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Shivering Isles)]


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09. [SPOILERS for ]

[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni]


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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [possible warning for sexual assault (as I'm sure the thread will contain discussion of it)]



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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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15. [WARNING for suicide]



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16. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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17. [WARNING for rape/non-con]

[Homestuck]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #319.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if the older men would be the ones doing it, as GRRM indicates that the Watch used to be a place where it was considered a very great honor to serve where generally honorable and valiant men went. He doesn't specify when exactly it changed into the Watch serving as a sort of jail but from the way the older characters act from the younger I'd guess relatively recently? Anyway I'd guess that it would be the younger watchers generally trying to rape each other, especially since the Watch has changed from "valiant service" to more or less jail.

[(Anonymous)]

That makes sense and also sounds good.

[(Anonymous)]

Except that's not the case. In the fourth book the lore about the Wall gets a lot more detailed, and GRRM goes as far as to say that they've been scraping the bottom of the barrel for new recruits at least as far as 20-30 years prior to when Jon joined (as long as the Old Bear was commander, at any rate).

Furthermore, Jon makes quite a few enemies among the higher officers at the end of the third book and into the fourth... He's even held captive for a time in which it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that might be raped as a punshiment.

I mean, I'm trying to be as spoiler-free as possible here, but the third and fourth books make it clear that not all of the older men of the Watch are good and honorable people. And even so, that still doesn't preclude the "where women are few a boy will do" standpoint that is as OLD AS TIME, and rife in organizations where women are either absent or forbidden from joining.

[(Anonymous)]

Feel free to use spoilers, I've read all books up to the middle of the fifth but it has a long time and my memory is hazy. Outside of the older new recruits that had joined (like the one Tyrion sent to the wall whose name I can't remember and the guys Arya was traveling with, Biter and whatnot) the older members came off as generally honorable guys if I recall correctly. It seemed like the younger ones were more malicious and were the ones causing trouble.