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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-15 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2236 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2236 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Inda series]


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[Les Miserables and Discworld]

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[Three Kingdoms 2010, Legend of Chu and Han]


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[DBSK]


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[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Shivering Isles)]


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09. [SPOILERS for ]

[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni]


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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [possible warning for sexual assault (as I'm sure the thread will contain discussion of it)]



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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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15. [WARNING for suicide]



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16. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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17. [WARNING for rape/non-con]

[Homestuck]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
SJWs aren't bothered by male rape. I've seen feminists say that the male soldiers who get raped have it coming because men rape women.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
As a femenists who advocates for recognition of male-rape, equal treatment in the shelter system and bias-free abuse education, go fuck yourself for comparing SJW to femenism and allocating a large group of people to their radical fringes.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-16 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, let's not play the "one true feminism" card here.

I'm a feminist who's seen a lot of feminists be really gross about transwomen, for example.

There are a lot of SJWs who like to talk up their feminism without, you know... understanding the implications.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with any of your points. There isn't a one true femenist and there are certainly many fucked-up trends in the community itself.

I still feel it's innacurate to correlate femenism with that degree of misandry.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, they generalized about all SJWs but not all feminists. It's not true about all SJWs either, but no one actually identifies as a SJW anyway.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-16 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes they do.



Ones who see what they do as the right thing.

+1

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
This, my god. A lot of so-called "feminists" have disgusting attitudes when it comes not only to transwomen, but to transmen as well.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
allocating a large group of people to their radical fringes

Yeah. Sucks, doesn't it?
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-16 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
not sure what you are trying to imply here. What, that they do the same to SJW's?

Social Justice Warriors ARE the fringe group.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2013-02-16 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, one or two people saying that definitely represents the entire feminist (or even the entire SJW) population. Stop.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
They didn't say "ALL FEMINISTS SAY THIS." They said "I've SEEN feminists say this," which, actually, so have I, and so has anyone who's ever encountered any of the radical types. Not all feminists are like that, but some ARE, and frankly I've seen the more moderate types spend a LOT more time telling non-feminists that not all feminists are like that than they do chastising the actual radfems who are saying this. You want to be aiming your "This is not what feminism is about" lectures to the radfems who are perpetuating the stereotype by their actions, as well as the people who have had unfortunate encounters with said radfems.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2013-02-16 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, yes, I do that when I see it. I don't see anyone here saying that, so there's not much I can do about it here. I have also seen a lot of people say things like, "I'm not a feminist because feminists ______" and that's a stupid generalization that needs to stop.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I've been chased out of enough feminist spaces for stupid stuff like "having male friends means you're on the MEN's SIDE" or "How DARE you say that male on male prison rape is as bad as male on female rape outside of prison, there is NO COMPARISON in prevalency OR victimization", while the moderates in the space basically sat by and watched or else barely spoke a weak word against it, to really have much faith in the general masses of "feminists" actually giving a crap about the radicals. If you need to explain to the majority of people you meet that the movement isn't (supposed to be) defined by the radicals, then the movement probably is getting most of its image from the radicals, and that is something that feminism DEFINITELY needs to work on, because the self-policing/explaining to outsiders that you're doing right now is not enough to overcome the loudness of the radicals.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-16 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say though, that's not so much a feminist problem as a larger groupthink problem.

Though you'd think groups with folks that say "call out the assholes" (again, not just feminists) would get more turned back on them once they gave permisison.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? Generalizing a group of people based on the actions of a few is wrong. Feminists would never do such a thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
Wah, wah, the poor traduced menz. It's only a few bad apples, there is no such thing as rape culture or rape apology, it's all in the minds of those evil, manhating feminists. Men are really niiice.

Yeah, right. Not in the experience of, um, pretty much every women ever, and not a few bullied men, transmen, transwomen and genderqueer people.

I'll believe it when I see the mainstream of culture and society taking any women's issues seriously.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Congrats, you just said that transmen are not men.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-16 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would we, when you and yours are the champions?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for proving my point.