[ SECRET POST #2236 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2236 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Inda series]


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02.
[Les Miserables and Discworld]

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03.
[Three Kingdoms 2010, Legend of Chu and Han]


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05.
[DBSK]


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06.
[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Shivering Isles)]


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09. [SPOILERS for ]

[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni]


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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [possible warning for sexual assault (as I'm sure the thread will contain discussion of it)]



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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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15. [WARNING for suicide]



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16. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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17. [WARNING for rape/non-con]

[Homestuck]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #319.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[sistermagpie]

I think you're totally right about the Wall. And I think the reason GRRM didn't build a rape culture into that is due to sexism--the threat of rape to women seems to feel natural to him in ways it doesn't in a situation like the Wall, even though it would absolutely be there.

The reason I don't have a problem with rape in general in the books is I think the books are all about power, and rape is one of many ways the people in the book use to assert their power over others. Raping women isn't just about power over that one woman, it's asserting the dominance of the man, and of the "victor"--hence the pillaging after a battle. It's like the way children get fostered--i.e., sent out as hostages to other fathers.

So I have no problem with the constant threat of sexual violence to women and children and very often men. But I do think it's pretty glaring that when GRRM creates a cross between a prison and a monastery he not only doesn't make rape a natural part of that world, but there doesn't seem to be much homosexuality going on at all either--what's that about? Yeah, I think we're seeing a blind spot in GRRM here. He has a much rosier (or straighter) view when he imagines a situation like the Wall than he does when he imagines everything else. The Wall's really quite cozy compared to everything else, with Jon making friends there etc.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a prefect comment.

Though I wouldn't mind the threat of sexual violence in the books if it wasn't handled poorly.

[(Anonymous)]

He has a much rosier (or straighter) view when he imagines a situation like the Wall

Or the army.