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⌈ Secret Post #2238 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The difference is, do you watch it solely to put down people who still like it? People who do that are the ones who piss me off. Fine, you're invested in seeing it through the end. Great. However, please don't belittle me when I enjoy an aspect of it that you hate. YKINMK, except not kinks. Well... in a non-sexual way, maybe? Is that a thing?

Though really, if people watch things that piss them off just to watch them, I have to wonder if there aren't better, and less stressful/aggravating, ways to spend your time... Like, can't you skip a few weeks and then marathon-hate?

[intrigueing]

Like, can't you skip a few weeks and then marathon-hate?

Yeah, this is how I dealt with a couple shows that I couldn't stand anymore but needed to finish watching anyway. SO much better.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

There are a few shows I started watching and can't really stand them, but I'm sticking it out (and I'm not involved in the fandoms) and that's what I do. If I'm having a crappy day and need to channel my anger elsewhere, then I marathon-hate. And write angry, private/few-friends-allowed liveblogs, so no one in the fandom can jump on my ass for not liking their precious babies.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't you ever find ranting about something therapeutic? And don't you think sometimes ranting about a stupid TV show you hate feels better then having to rant about real problems in your life?

I don't think hate-watching is always stressful for everyone, sometimes it's amusing and sometimes it's just another way to get away from your life (like most television is.)

If a show is stressing me out I pretty much do stop watching, but hate-watching isn't always stressful for me.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if I find it therapeutic. I mean, most of the time if I don't like something, I just try to avoid it as much as possible.

People who hate-watch and internet-screech about the things they hate always come across as boiling lava pits of anger, so I just tend to roast marshmallows over their posts while wondering why they put themselves through that every week.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it's all about tone but I don't always see it that way. And sometimes things can be really funny when a show is going downhill.

Like to this day I still consider the best LOST times in fandom was when the worst episodes were airing because the jokes that came out of it were hilarious.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, yeah, I agree. And when most of the fandom is on the "da fuq is this" train to finale-town, I think that's something else entirely. Then all of you are bound together to stick it out because dammit, we've done this for six seasons and a movie so let's finish it together. And stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

For me ranting is not therapeutic at all - I get angrier and more stressed out if I indulge in it. Which is why I tend to ignore the things that irritate me about shows as much as I can (and when I no longer can ignore it I stop watching). When I come across a ranting post about something - no matter what it is and even if I agree with some of it I actually start feeling stressed out and upset about the fact that someone is that angry more than the subject of the rant itself and it makes me uncomfortable so no I'd rather not see someone's ranting posts.

[night_owl_9]

This is pretty much how I feel too. I like deconstructing episodes and shows as much as the next person - I usually find new observations about certain characters or plot points that I hadn't realized during the first airing, and that is endlessly fascinating to me. But when I read something that is so embedded with hate and anger that it dismisses everything in its path, I just get really stressed out and anxious.

[(Anonymous)]

Well sure, but the thing is, in this case, you can avoid the anger and the need to vent altogether by just not watching the thing you hate in the first place. And as a bonus, you also avoid making the people around you miserable as well.

[(Anonymous)]

But my point was it's not always an anger thing, sometimes it's about a release of anger.

And not everyone becomes miserable by reading someone's negative review, sometimes negative reviews make me happy because "OMG someone else feels the same way I do!" Positive or negative, it's nice to feel there are fans who may be getting similar feelings out of a show as you because otherwise you start to feel weird for feeling the way you do (or at least this is what happens to me, and other people have told me they felt the same>

[(Anonymous)]

Except actually you'll find that making the choice to engage with something you hate just so you have a vent for your anger about something else probably doesn't help you vent the real source of your anger at all?

[(Anonymous)]

Well... in a non-sexual way, maybe? Is that a thing?

In fandom, yes, due to word evolution. Elsewhere, uhm.
What IS the word for a non-sexual "kink", anyway? Like "I have this tremendous worldbuilding kink, I'll read anything that digs into cultural minutia"

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think there's a word for it. My Googles are resulting in ace websites listing "non-sexual fetishes" and "non-sexual kinks".

[(Anonymous)]

"Kinks" is used here as a broad term that includes emotional, plot-related, and sexual kinks. I could go into detail about why I think these often combine together to heighten one's response to a story, but I think it might be self-evident so I'll err on the side of sparing you. Clichés are things I generally feel positively about, but you're welcome to use items on this list as negative examples or squicks."

From Anna S, Fanlore.org

Kinks meaning something non-sexual is pretty common these days.

[higglety]

I like to use 'squee' as a noun for that, personally. It's not a perfect solution, but I like it.

[(Anonymous)]

OP.

Nah, I don't think I do. I mean sometimes I don't understand why some people still like certain aspects of whatever show, but I'll keep my thoughts to myself or on my Twitter/LJ/friends. Unless someone engages with me and asks me what my issues are.

I don't see the issue with hate-watching just to be able to get through something/amuse yourself a little. But it is really, really, really irritating to be told over and over that you should stop watching or being asked repeatedly why you're still watching it. Last time I checked, I didn't have to seek permission from anyone else to watch a damn TV show. I get that people think everyone should love their fave shows or whatever, but life just doesn't work that way. I'm not sure why it's so hard for certain people to comprehend.

[(Anonymous)]

It's just confusing sometimes to see LJ/Twitter/Tumblr posts from the same people week after week complaining and bitching about the same damn things all the time. Like, that's the show formula. You know that. And it's probably not going to change this season. Maybe next season, when the writers have had time to process any fan reactions they've come across. At that point is when I question why you're still watching it, when you know you're going to see the same things that piss you off next week. Find some cliffnotes if you're invested in the characters but not the plot, or don't clog up my feed with the repetitive complaints. That's all I'm asking, when I'm trying to be positive about the good parts. (because even if I like a show, I know there are parts that make me cringe and go "Oh no, I can hear the SJWs complaining already, that was a terrible move on {show creator's} part")

[(Anonymous)]

Unfollow them. It's as simple as that. If fans are too omg!!squee!! for me when I don't like something and they do, it's time to say goodbye. If they're your friends then you just have to suck it up and accept it for what it is. People have different reasons for watching things and why can't someone post about what they DON'T like? Personally, I like to see what people do and don't like.

It depends on how objective you are, but your bias/positivity doesn't mean you should shut other people down. That is not fair.

[(Anonymous)]

On the flip side, your bias/negativity should not aim to shut me down for enjoying it. Which, most people who hate on things try to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Which, most people who hate on things try to do.

DA. What you said was fine until you said this. While I don't doubt their are fans who actively rain on other people's parade not everyone is trying to shut other people down, maybe they are just looking for a discussion or a good debate, but I know I personally do not go into people's squee fests looking to kill their joy.

So basically I don't think you should have used the qualifier "most" without any solid numbers to back that up, if you had said "some" then fine, but not "most".

[otakugal15]

Or, like in my case with TBBT, I post my thoughts through out the episode on Tumblr. It's usually negative because I hate this pair or that pair or that situation. Sometimes it's epic fun, cause something was funny and reminiscent of a previous, better season.

I'm not posting discussion topics here. Just my brain prattle at that moment. If someone wants to like or comment their dislike to me, eh, whatever. If they don't like it, they can ignore my posts or Tumblr Savior it.

I'm not there to rain on anyone's parade because I really don't expect discussion on that, since my posts are usually less than 5 sentences long.

The only time I actually "rain on someone's parade" is when I'll see post that's actively going "I hate these people!! They thought this entire romantic scene was rapey in tines!! WTF MAN?!" and I'll post my response and explain why that scene WAS that way, especially if the roles had been reversed.

Other than that, if they answer back? eh. but I post my thoughts and opinions on my blog just to get them out, not to ruin anyone's squee.

...I think I had a point at one point and then lost it. Sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Half of the time, people I see bitching about haters don't even have direct contact with them. I don't go around telling everyone what I didn't like unless they ask me or we're discussing it. But just the fact that I don't a show is often a problem for people. Maybe you think you're being shut down when really you're not.

[(Anonymous)]

please don't belittle me when I enjoy an aspect of it that you hate

THIS.