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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-17 03:55 pm

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School of Thrones

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
So apparently there's a new webseries starting soon that's doing GoT as a comedy High School AU (think Mean Girls, to the extent that Dany has a Burn Book).

The chick who played Lydia in the Lizzie Bennet Diaries is playing Sansa. I didn't watch LBD, but I've seen some wank about how the Lydia arc turned out, and about Mary Kate Wiles getting into it with fandom? Anyone know more background on that?

What are your thoughts and opinions, F!S?

I love High School AUs, but the GoT fandom is such a sexist cesspit that I'm worried about how "high school bitchery" is going to play out here. Also, ten years ago when we were having the copyright debates in fandom, I did not foresee semi-professional funded projects coming.

Re: School of Thrones

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I DON'T CARE HOW BAD IT IS, I WANT IT LIKE CANDY.
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Re: School of Thrones

[personal profile] thinkatory 2013-02-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha Dany has a burn book I get it
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Re: School of Thrones

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-17 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The fandom for just about everything is a sexist cesspit, and all geeks appear to hate high school girls who are popular.

So.
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Re: School of Thrones

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2013-02-18 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Geeks are incapable of being sexist or -ist though! They were discriminated against throughout high school for being geeks, and that's just like sexism and stuff.

Re: School of Thrones

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-02-18 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think Varys or Littlefinger would have a Burn Book, obviously. Pfft, how can I take AU seriously with this gross OOC oversight?
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Re: School of Thrones

[personal profile] thursdaymoose 2013-02-18 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Two main points of drama in the fandom (this got so long sorry, but I've been keeping tabs on the drama for a while now):

-There are a few people involved in the production of LBD on tumblr. Pretty much everyone in that chunk of the fandom knows their tumblr names and that they track related tags (lots of liking/reblogging things related to them.)

One of the people is the writer in charge of the Lydia storyline. She openly complained about how people wouldn't shut up about the Lizzie/Darcy plot, encouraged campaigns to get more Lydia videos, and told people who were most concerned about the sister's relationship that they were "watching the show right".

Well someone made a post joking about this tendency of hers. Idk if they tagged it with anything related or not, but two of the actresses (Lizzie and Lydia's) commented and told her that what she was doing wasn't cool.

This caused a veritable explosion. Debates arose about professionalism, and a bunch of people came forth to admit they did not feel safe criticizing the show (even untagged on their own blogs) for fear of one of the staff finding it. People also began to point out how having the creators active in the fandom can encourage a split between those who like the show one way and those who have Word of God that they're "doing it right".

- Being an adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, it was always know that Lydia was going to have some sort of "fall" that came close to ruining her family and necessitated the intervention of Darcy.

As all well written characters do, Lydia had flaws. She's impulsive, doesn't always think before she speaks. She is said to get blackout drunk often (and for the first half of the series, she's 20). Her sisters need to babysit her frequently as she goes out to party. She steals Xanax from both her mother and the family she babysits for.

Before the last arc started, Lizzie and Lydia got in a fight and stopped watching each other's videos. Lizzie and Jane (the eldest sister) are both away from home, working on furthering their careers. Lydia ends up in a relationship with George Wickham, noted scumbag. There's a weird series of blogs dedicated to him emotionally abusing her and making her dependent on him because he's the only one that'll be there for here etc etc (all while every other character, despite not being in a fight with Lydia, aren't watching her videos)

This goes on for a few weeks when a site is put up advertising a sex tape of Lydia and George (with a countdown timer). Lizzie gets linked to the site and freaks out, rushing back home. We find out Lydia didn't know. George has disappeared.

Then there are a couple of melodramatic videos about how Lizzie ~didn't know her sister~ and she's soooo sorry. The problem presented is "there is a sex tape of Lydia" and "Lizzie looked down on her sister because she thought Lydia was a slut but Lydia wasn't actually a slut". Not "Lydia was emotionally abused." (in fact, the word abuse has never been said on the show or by any of the creators).

Also there was this weird moment where Lydia, on-screen said people who left comments wanting Lizzie's arc at Pemberly to go on longer as saying "Lydia ruins Lizzie's life", which is pretty transparently the writer going "you insult this, you make the character sad" which is all kinds of weird.

TL,DR:
- creators say "ur doin it wrong"
- interesting threads dropped, plot whitewashes a character's flaws and becomes melodramatic
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Re: School of Thrones

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-02-18 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope.