[ SECRET POST #2239 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2239 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Elementary]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Noah, Power Rangers MegaForce]


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05.
[Mass Effect]


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06.
[Resident Evil]


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07.
[Medaka Box]


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08.
[Shameless]


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09.
[Star Trek 2009]


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10.
[Dreamwork's Sinbad, Avengers, American Gods, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Batman, Gunnerkrigg Court, Grim Adventures, Trickster's Choice/Queen]


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11.
[American Dad]


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12.
[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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13.
[my neighbour totoro]


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14.
[Medaka Box]


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15.
[Downton Abbey]


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16.
[The Red Panda, Black Jack Justice]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 080 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[owen_in_boots]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong since I found it really unpleasant to talk with her most of the time, but didn't she mention she was bi-sexual? Or at least at one point in time had slept with a woman? Doesn't mean she wants to continue down that route (obviously, since you could only romance her as a male Shep), but it's at least a decent point to make to maybe ease the guilt of the OP.

[sugar_spun]

No, she mentions that she was forced to sleep with a guy and his girlfriend and she didn't like it. Later she expresses to Shepard she doesn't swing for that team when she thinks you're hitting on her. Or, rather, something about not being in that 'girls club'. Here.

[(Anonymous)]

She doesn't mention if she was forced or whether she liked it.

[sugar_spun]

"When I was starting out, I ran with this girl Manara and her boyfriend. They knew their way around. I thought they would help me. Right. They helped me into their bed..."

That's a very strong implication that she was raped. First, because when she was 'starting out', was when she was a little girl. Now, it could be that she spent years as a slave, but I doubt that, since she doesn't mention she did. I can't see her being older than thirteen at that point.

Couple that with the fact Jack clearly juxtaposes one idea, "I thought they would help me", with another, "they helped me into their bed", which obviously implies the bed part and the helping part didn't mix. She didn't want to sleep with them.

The link I gave showed her also strongly implying she was not into women.

[(Anonymous)]

That really is only your interpretation you know that.

[sugar_spun]

Well, I understand that if you have a really poor grasp of the English language or REALLY REALLY REALLY want to believe Jack is possibly bi or gay, yeah.

You'll notice there's no similar line in place for ManShep at this instance. And you'll notice that despite the fact Shepard is literally the EXACT same person male or female, and Jack isn't exactly subtle about the things she likes or sex or anything about it, she doesn't pursue or flirt with Shepard even a little.

You are taking delusion pills if you think otherwise, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Where did I start talking about whether or not Jack was bisexual? It's nice that you belief that your interpretation is THE ONLY TRUTH and everyone thinking different must be a delusional foreigner or desperate. Lovely.

[sugar_spun]

I presumed that is what you were arguing.

Regardless, yes, you would have to not understand the language to interpret that sentence any other way than "I did not want/enjoy having sex with them". Yes, it's THE ONLY TRUTH. That's simply how the sentence is constructed. If I said "I don't like cheescake", you can't argue that I actually DO like cheesecake, because what if I didn't mean for that "don't" to be in there, huh?

The wording of the sentence so so SO strongly implies I think it's better to say it directly states it.

[(Anonymous)]

A bit offtopic. Been a while since I played ME2, but doesn't she at one point casually say something like, "If you mean boyfriends or girlfriends..." I don't know, just the way she said it gave me the impression that she swung both ways and she was totally fine with it, then she does a complete 180 and straps a neon get-your-vag-out-of-here sign on her head. Not going to argue about whether or not she was forced into the bed of the couple (though personally it sounds like they earned her trust, welcomed her into their bed and then betrayed her), just saying it seemed like she was bi.

[(Anonymous)]

no, i think it's pretty clear from that line that she didn't enjoy it, and this is coming from someone who has never even played the games.

"I thought they would help me." = she wanted them to help her

"Right. They helped me into their bed..." = except they didn't help her, they did something that she clearly isn't pleased about

it's not "interpretation" to point out what is explicitly being said.

[(Anonymous)]

"except they didn't help her, they did something that she clearly isn't pleased about"

Yes, because they ended up betraying her. That is the punchline. She ran with them, she had sex with them, they betrayed her.