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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-18 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2239 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2239 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Elementary]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Noah, Power Rangers MegaForce]


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05.
[Mass Effect]


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06.
[Resident Evil]


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07.
[Medaka Box]


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08.
[Shameless]


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09.
[Star Trek 2009]


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10.
[Dreamwork's Sinbad, Avengers, American Gods, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Batman, Gunnerkrigg Court, Grim Adventures, Trickster's Choice/Queen]


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11.
[American Dad]


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12.
[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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13.
[my neighbour totoro]


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14.
[Medaka Box]


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15.
[Downton Abbey]


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16.
[The Red Panda, Black Jack Justice]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 080 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Dragon is foiled by Ice but Ice is a really bad defensive type and all other types have more than one foil (except Electric, but since Ground *is* a good type both offensively and defensively, and way more common, it's much easier to counter).

This is actually one reason why I hope the Light thing is true. It needs to be resistant to Dragon - the only type that resists Dragon so far is Steel.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why would Light be resistant to Dragon, though? Usually the type chart has a sliver of basis in logic. Like dragons being reptiles, which are cold-blooded responding badly to Ice types.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-19 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Why Why is Fighting weak to Flying? Why is Poison weak to Ground (or Psychic)? Why are Normal and Dark weak to Fighting? Why is Psychic weak to Dark?

I think the logic is questionable sometimes.

Also, I was thinking along the lines of a more spiritual thing - like ultimate good beings could resist the mystical power that took down everything else IDK IDK MAN it was kind of along the same lines as the Dark/Psychic thing tbh, but even that's really vague. Just kind of like, spiritual/basic/elemental opposites or foils I guess. A lot of that stuff is really arbitrary anyway

And it makes a lot of sense to do it from the strategy perspective. It would being balance to the game. I'd also like it if they made it weak to Poison for the same reasons, but I know that would be just pulling shit out of their ass (I still wouldn't argue though, it literally makes as much sense as Dark weak to Bug and shit like that)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Don't have anything for Fighting towards Flying. Poison being weak against Ground makes sense to me because ground is great at filtering which includes pollutants. As for the Psychic type, a mind-reader would have trouble being poisoned, yes? Dark's more fighting dirty, so a honorable fighter would be able to counter that or something. Same goes for Normal; an average joe can't really fight as well as a pro. Aaaaand Psychic's (or mind) weakness correspond to fears (Bugs, Ghost, and Dark (or Evil, if you prefer.)

But, point taken.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-19 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to analyze this a little bit because for some reason I really care about this lol. Not trying to push my point or anything. If anything I like the possibility of coming to understand some of these relationships a bit better and the reasons behind them.

because ground is great at filtering which includes pollutants

This would explain Ground resisting Poison, but I don't think it actually does that. Doesn't do much to explain Poison being weak to Ground.

a mind-reader would have trouble being poisoned, yes

Same as above, and I can't remember if Psychic resists Poison. But even then I'm not sure I'd agree with that reasoning - you'd think that mind reading abilities would give Psychic-types the ability to avoid virtually any attack, by that logic. But their physical bodies would be just as susceptible to poison as any other, wouldn't they?

Dark's more fighting dirty, so a honorable fighter would be able to counter that or something

I like this one, but it's way more abstract, kind of like my reasoning for Light and Dragon.

an average joe can't really fight as well as a pro.

That doesn't really explain susceptibility to attacks tough? I think this one's pretty tenuous.

Psychic's (or mind) weakness correspond to fears (Bugs, Ghost, and Dark (or Evil, if you prefer.)

I actually really like this one! That makes a lot of sense ^^ The only thing about that is kind of off-topic, but I really strongly disagree with calling Dark "evil" in the Pokémon world. I think of it as more of a correspondence to "shadow" which (at least in my headcanon) is not at all an evil force - just one that tends to be mysterious and connected to things like mischief. The goodness or evilness (if that's even possible) of a Pokémon are not connected to its type imo.
Edited 2013-02-19 03:19 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
No, that's totally fine. I should of said that these were my precious little headcanons and pretty much wanted an excuse to share them. It's really fun for me, because gosh darn it I want somewhat logical explanations for the type chart.

And I can see your points with those! Don't really have much I can counter with your points at the moment, though. Hopefully we'll be able figure something, right?

As for Evil versus Dark; I prefer Dark because, like you, I don't see Dark types are inherently bad, just mischievous. However, I think with being originally named the Evil type, Game Freak was going for more of a fighting dirty connection rather than a shadow connection. So I like to keep that in mind when coming up with types.

Also, the only other place I've seen the logic behind type match ups being discussed is on Tv Tropes' Wild Mass Guessing theories. So here's the link if you're interested: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/PokemonTypeMatchups
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-19 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I read elsewhere on the thread that "Dark" was called "Evil" in Japanese and it really surprised me. Huh.

Thanks for the link and I might look into it later (it's super interesting!) but I'm about to go to bed in just a minute so...I really don't dare venture into the wild and labrynthine realm of TV Trops right now |D
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[personal profile] ryttu3k 2013-02-19 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
The Japanese version of Dark is Evil, yeah. Which I honestly don't think fits, considering Pokemon like Absol - which are explicitly NOT evil, and are more misunderstood Cassandra-types.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
da

interesting
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[personal profile] scrubber 2013-02-19 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Weeeellllll, the rest of those don't make sense, I'll give you that, but fighting would be weak to flying just because you can't punch something in the air. The difference in ranged attacks is the advantage.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-19 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
By that logic though wouldn't flying be completely immune to fighting? And also any other attack that requires physical contact? Also, that only covers Flying's resistance to Fighting, not Fighting's weakness to Flying.
Edited 2013-02-19 03:20 (UTC)