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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-18 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2239 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2239 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Elementary]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Noah, Power Rangers MegaForce]


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05.
[Mass Effect]


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06.
[Resident Evil]


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07.
[Medaka Box]


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08.
[Shameless]


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09.
[Star Trek 2009]


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10.
[Dreamwork's Sinbad, Avengers, American Gods, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Batman, Gunnerkrigg Court, Grim Adventures, Trickster's Choice/Queen]


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[American Dad]


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12.
[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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13.
[my neighbour totoro]


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14.
[Medaka Box]


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15.
[Downton Abbey]


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16.
[The Red Panda, Black Jack Justice]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 080 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Know what's more annoying? Loud-mouthed, aggressive masculine woman reveals herself to be a weepy, whiny girly girl on the inside after being sufficiently pounded by healing penis.

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-02-19 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
And it would somehow be better if it were FemShep? I'll point out that Jack is similarly 'healed' by Shepard's friendship, male or female. I think it would have been more appropriate to forgo the sex, actually, but still.

And I'll point out that you actually just called someone who has been raped and enslaved and tortured for her entire life as "whiny" and "weepy", as if these are inappropriate responses to the extreme trauma of her life. That was literally her only moment of weakness. In ME3 she's actually a very together person.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hardly, but if they were going with that dumb cliche, they might as well have let it go both ways.

da

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
She isn't a person, she's a fictional character. Which means she isn't responding to trauma, she's being written a certain way to evoke a certain reaction from the audience. And that way's very linked to an unfortunate stereotype: the bitter, damaged woman who merely needs the love of a good man to soften her up and heal her.

Speaking on the stereotypical behavior of a character in fiction is no more akin to berating an actual rape victim for their trauma response than complaining about the heavily-sexualized costumes of female superheroes is to shaming an actual woman for wearing a short skirt. Criticizing media tropes, especially harmful ones, isn't a bad thing.

Re: da

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-02-20 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
But the issue is that you can 'heal' her by being her male and female friend. Jack didn't need someone to fix her aggressiveness or anything, she needed someone she felt she could trust and who wouldn't betray her. When you see her in ME3, she's still basically the same person, just a lot more adjusted and more rational.

I said somewhere in this thread that the scene would have gone a lot better if they just talked, but even though they didn't I feel like the other points I made assuage that.