[ SECRET POST #2241 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2241 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I think that's more that they took a ~90 minute original and blew it up into almost 3 hours without creating much new music. SOME of the repetitions work on a thematic level like Fantine's Death/On My Own as you mention, but others are just SUPER lazy writing, like Lovely Ladies/Turning.

[fauxkaren]

Oh. I actually like the Lovely Ladies/Turning repetition because they're both songs about the plight of women.

[(Anonymous)]

Lovely Ladies/Turning is thematic and I love how they are the same, just one is slower and sadder. It gives me chills thinking how that bouncy "happy" tune turns into one of the saddest melodies in the whole thing. (For me.)

[fauxkaren]

I love "Turning" too! Because like everything at the barricade was for naught. Nothing changed. But all these men died, and the women are left behind, and the world goes on.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm surprised to always hear people say Lovely Ladies is bouncy or happy or whatever. Aside from the tune, that song seems awfully sinister and grim to me. It's Fantine's induction into a group of women who have to do a job society thinks makes them subhuman because they have no choice.

[(Anonymous)]

And now that I think on it more, I don't think even the melody sounds happy. It's fast-paced, I guess, but it's atonal and creepy compared to the operatic feel of other Les Mis songs.

[othellia]

Same. I also feel a similar way with the Bishop's song and Empty Chairs. They are both melancholy, but one is full of hope and rebirth while the other is about pointless death and being left behind.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait... ~90 minute original? Isn't the play roughly as long as the movie is? Am I missing something?

[(Anonymous)]

The FRENCH original, before the translation and additional material was closer to 90 min.

[tenlittlebullets]

The cast recording was close to 90 minutes. The original French show itself was two and a half hours long.

[tenlittlebullets]

Repeating this so it doesn't get buried in a subthread: the cast recording was 90 minutes. The original French musical itself was about two and a half hours long, not counting intermission, and structurally very similar to the English adaptation. (The cast recording jumbles the song order; One Day More wasn't actually smack in the middle of Act II.) If you leave aside the addition of a 20-minute prologue, more material was cut than added.

Not that I'm defending Turning; Cameron Mackintosh has admitted it's only in there to justify paying the female ensemble for sticking around through the second act.