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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-24 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2245


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[personal profile] ariakas 2013-02-24 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I hate that argument, and she's far from the first to make it.

THIS JUST IN: A LOT OF STRONG WOMEN ARE ALSO TRADITIONALLY 'MASCULINE' IN OTHER WAYS AND THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM ANY LESS FEMALE NOR LESS APT ROLE MODELS FOR YOUNG WOMEN NOR IS THEIR VERY EXISTENCE A CRITICISM OF STRONG WOMEN WHO ARE 'FEMININE'.

MORE AT ELEVEN.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I do agree with the idea that stereotypically/traditionally feminine traits shouldn't be considered less desirable than the stereotypically masculine ones, and that it's sexist to portray femininity as weakness or something bad. But in a few cases, it seems like people take it too far, and act like it's bad for a female character to have the "masculine" characteristics. How is that any better? Isn't it kind of going back to the idea that women should all be traditionally feminine and not do certain things because they're "too masculine?"

I'd rather people try to move away from seeing simple personality traits, like strength, weakness, compassion, etc. as being either masculine or feminine.
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[personal profile] mistressofmuses 2013-02-24 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much all of the above. I understand the criticism when "masculine" traits are considered the ONLY way for a woman to be strong, or if femininity is portrayed as weak in comparison to the strong=masculine portrayal, but... as you said, a woman should be able to display any traits that suit her, regardless of whether they're feminine or masculine. And I agree, it'd be better to consider personality traits as potentials for any gender.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS THIS THIS.

I'm really tired of the portrayal of "masculine" women as only being okay when they ~secretly~ like or want traditionally feminine things because it's often portrayed as, "Oh, she's only acting masculine because she's ~insecure~ about her femininity!" and it's really insulting. A woman's interests and/or gender expression have no fucking bearing on whether she's a woman or not, and both extremes and everything in between are all equally valid ways of being a woman!
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-25 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather people try to move away from seeing simple personality traits, like strength, weakness, compassion, etc. as being either masculine or feminine.

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[personal profile] lynx 2013-02-24 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This should be broascasted everywhere, preferently in a high volume so people listen despite not wanting to.

The caps even added to the idea.